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Baelee05 11-10-2012 05:43:24 12.192.13.220 Report to Moderator	Thanks to everyone who chimed in with advice for my genny and VR problems with the old forklift and M this past week. The problem with the M was twofold. First, I had it wired incorrectly and second, the VR was set improperly from the shop I got it from. Basically both the forklift and M problems were caused by improperly set VRs from my gen shop. These guys are usually really good but they kind of let me down on these two things. Oh well. Just glad to have both issue resolved. Now onto other things! The clutch on this old M hasn"t been right since I got it so I think I am going to see about fabbing up some spilt stands and put a clutch and a rear engine seal in the old girl. It will be my first split see we will see how that goes! [Reply]   [No Email]
Owen Aaland 11-11-2012 01:08:29 216.47.35.154 Report to Moderator	Re: John T and others..... Thanks for the help in reply to Lucid, 11-10-2012 05:43:24   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see About the only thing that may be a bit out of the ordinary in replacing the M clutch without splitting the tractor is that you remove every other PPA mounting blot and install them back into the pressure plate to compress the springs. Other than that it is a matter of removing the LiftAll pump, disconnecting and removing the drive shaft coupler,release the clutch pedal return spring, and remove the two bolts that hold the release bearing pilot tube to the clutch housing. At that point you can usually remove the drive shaft from the clutch disk. Some times you have to remove the other three bolts from the PPA to be able to slide the shaft out. Once the shaft is out the PPA and disk will come out. [Reply]  [No Email]
Baelee05 11-11-2012 03:45:00 12.192.13.220 Report to Moderator	Re: John T and others..... Thanks for the help in reply to Owen Aaland, 11-11-2012 01:08:29   Thanks Owen. This one needs a rear seal too so I am going to go ahead and split it. This will also give me the experience of splitting one and allow me to get a better idea of how to do a clutch removal in the future without splitting. [Reply]  [No Email]
JDnTN 11-10-2012 19:11:44 70.193.6.191 Report to Moderator	Re: John T and others..... Thanks for the help in reply to Baelee05, 11-10-2012 05:43:24   I had heard about the non-split/urban legend. How do you replace the clutch/pp without splitting? Thanks, Jon [Reply]  [No Email]
Smitholm 11-10-2012 08:52:14 71.58.91.48 Report to Moderator	Re: John T and others..... Thanks for the help in reply to Baelee05, 11-10-2012 05:43:24   Um, not an expert in this area by any means, but I'm not at all sure you need a split to replace a clutch on an M. Super M, however, a different story I believe. [Reply]  [No Email]
Janicholson 11-10-2012 09:51:38 96.24.99.126 Report to Moderator	Re: John T and others..... Thanks for the help in reply to Smitholm, 11-10-2012 08:52:14   The pressure plate and disk are replaceable without splitting. The geometry is a little tight, but very doable. Jim [Reply]  [No Email]
Janicholson 11-10-2012 07:03:18 96.24.99.126 Report to Moderator	Re: John T and others..... Thanks for the help in reply to Baelee05, 11-10-2012 05:43:24   Thanks, Good luck with the split. Making the stands so that their point of contact with the floor is at least 36 inches apart assists in keeping things upright. (important) allowing each side to have an inch of up down adjustability is also desirable. Jim [Reply]  [No Email]
Baelee05 11-10-2012 11:33:53 12.192.13.220 Report to Moderator	Re: John T and others..... Thanks for the help in reply to Janicholson, 11-10-2012 07:03:18   If I decide to go the trailer jack route for the split do yo think two 1000 lb jacks are sufficient? [Reply]  [No Email]
Janicholson 11-10-2012 11:50:16 96.24.99.126 Report to Moderator	Re: John T and others..... Thanks for the help in reply to Baelee05, 11-10-2012 11:33:53   in lift yes in side to side and forward and back they would need diagonal bracing. Jim [Reply]  [No Email]
Baelee05 11-10-2012 09:48:31 12.192.13.220 Report to Moderator	Re: John T and others..... Thanks for the help in reply to Janicholson, 11-10-2012 07:03:18   Thank You. I am considering using someone else's idea for mounting trailer jacks to the side rails for jack stands. I thought I would then mount some outriggers of some kind further foward to assist in keeping the thing from tipping. Going to take some time and think about it before doing anything. [Reply]  [No Email]