broken starter nose cone

Tom Dowling · Oct 14, 2012

I just finished rebuilding the carb on my 400, went to start her up and the starter sounded strange, thought the bushings were goin bad, pulled it and found the entire nose cone broke off!!! Its not right in there where I can feel it or reach it through the starter hole or either bottom inspection covers so it must be beside the front of the flywheel on the bottom side. As far as I can tell the only way to get where its at would be to split the tractor. I"m thinking about leaving it in there if its not hitting the flywheel but I"m not sure how smart that would be. Any ideas how to get it out would be greatly appreciated.

teddy52food · Oct 14, 2012

Use a bright light and a mirror to locate it. Maybe a good magnet to fetch it.

Zachary Hoyt · Oct 14, 2012

I shattered the small gear on the starter on a Massey 35 a few years ago. I had some little donut shaped magnets that I tied on a string and fished through the starter hole and got out all four pieces after an hour or so. I would not leave it there in case it rattles around some day and interferes with the flywheel, I am not sure what would break but something would and it would not be good.
Zach

gab · Oct 14, 2012

I know a guy that left a starter nose in a Farmall H ,it took the fingers off the pressure plate.

Tom Dowling · Oct 14, 2012

The nose cone isn"t on the pressure plate side, I can get to that side. It"s on the crankshaft side.
Looks like trouble.

wisbaker · Oct 14, 2012

I don't think I'd leave it in there, if it wedges between the flywheel and the bellhousing you're going to have to replace at least on and maybe both. Is there an inspection plate on the bottom? I think I'd try magnets and pickup tools and mirrors and borescopes to find and remove it, try for a while before you split it. And you know what they say about splitting one, might as well do the clutch, rear main and input seal while you're there so you don't have to look at it again.

gene bender · Oct 15, 2012

Yes the nose cone is on the pressure plate side better fish it out before it gets into the pressure plate and flywheel starter gear. What makes you think its not on the pressure plate side

gene bender · Oct 15, 2012

So you are saying its between the block and flywheel. You mite need to drop the Hy unit then you can remove the pressure plate and flywheel enough to get the nose cone out.

D Slater · Oct 15, 2012

Can't be a very big piece if its between the flywheel and the steel plate on the rear of the engine. Trouble is even a small piece could wedge in the space. Right between the engine and flywheel the only things to catch on is the bolt heads mounting the steel plate to the engine and the rear main seal housings. After removing the bottom plate. Think I would try to see if a stiff wire or a long thin flat piece of metal would go up and dislodge the piece before spliting. Also a couple of places in the clutch housing on each side of the flywheel for a piece to rest on.

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