Late Model Farmall M w/ Disk Brakes??

Bought a really interesting tractor today, by the
serial number it is a 1951, mid to late year model.
It has factory disk brakes, but they dont look like
the Super M disk brakes... not sure if this is a
proto type disk brakes?? Anyone know anything about
this tractor??


thanks!
Clay
 
(quoted from post at 17:15:59 10/05/12) Bought a really interesting tractor today, by the
serial number it is a 1951, mid to late year model.
It has factory disk brakes, but they dont look like
the Super M disk brakes... not sure if this is a
proto type disk brakes?? Anyone know anything about
this tractor??


thanks!
Clay
A couple of different aftermarket conversions were available back in the day. Lambert was the major one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mru2Fis774

http://ytforums.ytmag.com/viewtopic.php?t=683897
 
If it says Ausco Lambert on the casting, and has three bolts holding it to the tractor, it is possibly dealer installed add-on accessory brakes. They were also sold to owners as a Kit to install in the ""field"". Jim
 
If 3 bolts retain the brake covers, there probably what kossuth posted.
From some searching in the past it looks like auto specialties Co. Called AUSCO made the brakes. H.L.Lambert had the patten for the design and probably credit for the design.
 
(quoted from post at 02:09:15 10/06/12) Lambert brakes, thats what we got!!

They rare??
Worth anything??

Clay

No repair parts are available. Best way to fix 'em is to completely remove and replace with original band brakes.
 
(quoted from post at 05:00:23 10/06/12)
(quoted from post at 02:09:15 10/06/12) Lambert brakes, thats what we got!!

They rare??
Worth anything??

Clay

No repair parts are available. Best way to fix 'em is to completely remove and replace with original band brakes.
ell.... That's not entirely true. It is a unique part that few people whom have M's have installed anymore so it is sorta rare. If you want to keep them the best way to get the discs relined is take them to a big truck shop. They usually have a place they send their brake shoes to reline them. In fact when we had to rebuild the PTO on our 450 that's how we fixed the clutch bands. It was way cheaper to have a company reline them than buy new units from Case/IH so relining generally isn't too bad as far as cost goes.

Now in the youtube video they do say some parts are available through Case. Not sure being I have never worked on a set of those. Now if something else is messed up IE the rollers or the pockets of the rollers or the backing plate or something then you have a task at hand. Yeah, you can easily swap a drum assembly onto your tractor so that's also an option. The only problem is most just about any assembly you pull off a junked tractor will probiably also be plum worn out.
 
I have an MD with the after market Lambert brakes. When I rebuilt them, around 10 years ago, you could get parts from IH. Probably no more. And 10 years ago the part were costly. I took my disks to the local clutch brake rebuild shop and they relined the disks for me at about 1/4 the cost of new disks from IH. If you want to keep these brakes on your tractor(they are a bit unusual), I think you could have a machine shop resurface the actuator parts that contact the disks if that is needed. I just sanded mine off. The only other parts likely to be of consequence are the balls and springs and you can likely find replacements for those that will work. If the grooves the balls run in are rough or corroded, that could be a problem. After I put the relined disks in mine and cleaned everything up, they are still working fine 10 years later.
 

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