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ken house 09-18-2012 10:30:38 173.242.240.50 Report to Moderator	i believe that fuel, gas, etc will go higher and may be hard to find at any price. home made diesel seems to be a good alternative. a landscaping company, nearby, is using home made diesel. which full or small size pick up, with diesel engine, has a good track record? [Reply]   [No Email]
Harold H 09-22-2012 12:40:46 12.23.230.67 Report to Moderator	Re: home made diesel in reply to ken house, 09-18-2012 10:30:38   If you want a diesel tractor, buy a diesel tractor. Most small diesel truck engines will nto have the right rpm, torque range, governor, etc, for proper performance in a tractor. JMHO. Harold H [Reply]  [No Email]
oldtanker 09-22-2012 14:30:08 66.228.255.239 Report to Moderator	Re: home made diesel in reply to Harold H, 09-22-2012 12:40:46   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Harold, a belt driven governor can be added.......but you are right about the HP/torque issue. Most of em develop torque under PTO engine RPMS and HP at or over 3000RPMS. Thats way out of wack with whats needed on a working tractor. Rick [Reply]  [No Email]
John 37A 09-19-2012 17:01:14 69.223.129.176 Report to Moderator	Re: home made diesel in reply to mkirsch, 09-18-2012 10:30:38   Something else I would like to add on the subject: you will have less power with biodiesel. I have the kids in my shop classes make biodiesel and run a Long 2460 on the dyno. 45hp on farm fuel and 41hp on biodiesel. It does, however, clean the smoke up from black clouds to a white haze that resembles steam. And it smells unique, but not overly strong. [Reply]  [No Email]
dej(Jed) 09-19-2012 08:00:00 141.189.251.1 Report to Moderator	Re: home made diesel in reply to ken house, 09-18-2012 10:30:38   Bio Diesel. Did you guys ever hear of NOX emissions. It is worse with Bio Diesel. Causes accelerated cancer in lab rats. People too I suppose. Use it sparingly. [Reply]  [No Email]
chevytaHOE5674 09-19-2012 07:01:16 74.221.56.19 Report to Moderator	Re: home made diesel in reply to ken house, 09-18-2012 10:30:38   Also something to think about that in many states there is rules about using homemade fuel on public streets, they require you to file paperwork with the state and pay the road tax, and in some cases a fuel blenders license. If you get pulled over and your tank dipped without having the proper paperwork you could be in for some trouble. [Reply]  [No Email]
mkirsch 09-19-2012 06:16:10 64.80.110.75 Report to Moderator	Re: home made diesel in reply to ken house, 09-18-2012 10:30:38   Making your own biodiesel from waste vegetable oil only works RIGHT NOW. You save money by not paying the road taxes that are on regular fuel. If we were ever to have a true fuel crisis where you couldn't buy fuel at any price, the first thing people will do is snatch up all the vegetable oil. You won't be able to get vegetable oil, new or old, at any price, either. [Reply]  [No Email]
Lmack 09-18-2012 20:15:05 24.131.58.167 Report to Moderator	Re: home made diesel in reply to ken house, 09-18-2012 10:30:38   I made some and ran it in my 55 model Fugurson (3 cylinder) and it did run but I did not like the performance. I used the tractor to plow fire breaks so the loading was real. It was not worth the trouble for me. I went back to regular diesel. [Reply]  [No Email]
oldtanker 09-18-2012 17:16:26 66.228.255.239 Report to Moderator	Re: home made diesel in reply to ken house, 09-18-2012 10:30:38   When the average user who makes his own shows me that he gets a full 10K hours out of a tractor engine or 500K or so out of a pickup engine then I will have to look into it. So far the only people who are claiming it works just fine are tight wads and "university studies done by enviormental studies students and departments.". Rick [Reply]  [No Email]
ken house 09-18-2012 17:34:14 173.242.240.50 Report to Moderator	Re: home made diesel in reply to oldtanker, 09-18-2012 17:16:26   the one that i know making diesel, is a local landscaping company, which has several years of use. [Reply]  [No Email]
John 37A 09-18-2012 16:26:09 69.223.129.176 Report to Moderator	Re: home made diesel in reply to ken house, 09-18-2012 10:30:38   Most new diesels are rated for biodiesel. I will agree, however, that if economics are your goal, then the depreciation alone of a newer truck will rule it out. Also in aggreance about the simplicity of older diesel engine injection systems, most especially Dodges from 89-93 and from 94-98. Furthermore, the light chassis of the older Dodges (89-93) will allow for an increase in fuel mileage, although you are giving up some creature comforts and trailer-pulling ability. The problem with older diesel trucks lies in the fuel lines, rather than the injection systems, when switching to biodiesel. Many of the hoses and O-rings will not withstand the properties of biodiesel. You will have more fuel leaks and possibly clog filters with fuel line parts and stored up dirt from 20+ years of work. The simplest answer here would be to replace all fuel lines and drop the tank for a good cleaning before running biodiesel. [Reply]  [No Email]
ken house 09-18-2012 17:36:15 173.242.240.50 Report to Moderator	Re: home made diesel in reply to John 37A, 09-18-2012 16:26:09   thanks for the good information [Reply]  [No Email]
Wardner 09-18-2012 16:25:13 4.154.253.189 Report to Moderator	Re: home made diesel in reply to ken house, 09-18-2012 10:30:38   The key to personal fuel security is storage and conservation. This only works if you are a moderate user. Prior to my retirement, when I was using 15,000 gallons a year, I was forced to pay market prices. After retirement, I set about to collect unwanted heating oil from home owners who had switched to natgas. Got my leads from Craigslist. When I reached 7000 gallons, I stopped. I figure I have enough to last me for the rest of my life. I only use it for Diesel engine fuel. I heat with wood. If you haven't got the time or the tanks, something similar can be done with oil futures or cheap out-of-the money long term options. Ya, there will be costs using that strategy but there are also costs in collecting and storing actual fuel. Bear in mind that nowadays nobody gives away unwanted fuel. It will have some discounted value. One should also consider the liabilities incurred with spilled fuel. [Reply]  [No Email]
ken house 09-18-2012 17:28:09 173.242.240.50 Report to Moderator	Re: home made diesel in reply to Wardner, 09-18-2012 16:25:13   thanks [Reply]  [No Email]
DeltaRed 09-18-2012 16:22:15 67.6.219.50 Report to Moderator	Re: home made diesel in reply to ken house, 09-18-2012 10:30:38   Got a neighbor who 'makes' his own.Smells like a french fry cooker every time he goes by.... [Reply]  [No Email]
chevytaHOE5674 09-18-2012 12:22:22 75.128.233.228 Report to Moderator	Re: home made diesel in reply to ken house, 09-18-2012 10:30:38   If you want to burn homemade fuel the older mechanically injected diesels are the best. The newer you get the more and more electronics there are to go wrong. [Reply]  [No Email]
kennell 09-18-2012 11:12:24 142.68.102.201 Report to Moderator	Re: home made diesel in reply to ken house, 09-18-2012 10:30:38   You can't beat the Dodge with the Cummins in it. That should get everyone worked up. LOL Kent [Reply]  [No Email]
uncle henry 09-18-2012 11:52:56 67.223.201.52 Report to Moderator	Re: home made diesel in reply to kennell, 09-18-2012 11:12:24   i agree with you kennell i have had my truck, trailer, and load weighed in at 39,760lbs [Reply]  [No Email]