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David A Smith · Sep 3, 2012

Hey Guys,
I've been restoring an H and painting with spray cans ... which has been working pretty well (so don't give me a hard time about not using a real sprayer) ... I'd like to know if there's anything I should be doing to protect the final product. When I'm done the finish LOOKS good but it seems to take dust and fingerprints pretty readily. Is there some sort of clear coat that I should apply? Do you recommend using auto wax? Thanks guys.

FBH44 · Sep 3, 2012

First thing, it will depend on which paint you"re using. I did the same thing last year, on my H. I used Van Sickle spray cans, which went on great, looked perfect for a month or two, then chalked and developed a white film. Looked like c__p.
Went to the Case IH dealer, and bought 6 cans of the official Iron-Gard B17566N Gloss Red paint, and just over-sprayed the Van Sickle. It doesn"t go on as good, in fact it sprays a few actual drops, but it sure stays a beautiful red, no chalking or fading. I keep my H in the barn, and it has not needed any clear coat or wax at all.

kennell · Sep 3, 2012

Your spray bombs are most likely enamel paint. Enamel paint takes a month to dry, so thats why your fingers seem to leave impressions. You cab buy spray bombs of clear coat. If you buy this product, try it on a sample peice first, to see if it reacts to the paint.Please show us some pics of your restoration. We love pictures. Hope this helps. Kent

John G. Hasler · Sep 3, 2012

> I keepI keep my H in the barn, and it has not
> needed any clear coat or wax at all.

I"ve noticed that all the brands of spray paint I"ve used (haven"t tried the stuff from IH) fade pretty fast in the sun. This doesn"t bother me much as mine are using tractors and I paint for protection rather than prettiness but if I was restoring I"d be looking for something else.

NoNewParts · Sep 3, 2012

spray cans are fine, as long as you follow all
painting prep, apply rules.
like said, can paint takes a long time to dry and harden.
after a few weeks, sure, wax it.
any protection helps. especially red in the sun
if lightly chalky/cloudy, a good cleaner wax will help some.
if really cloudy old paint, a light wheel applied compound,
followed by Liquid Ebony or equivalent swirl remover, then a good
wax will do wonders.

ericlb · Sep 3, 2012

ive done a couple using tractors with spray cans i found a couple things, first make sure you get enough paint on there, there really isnt much paint in a can ,its mostly propellent, and something like 2 or even 3 coats of spray paint just isnt enough to make a long lasting paint job, it needs more, second most spray paint isnt fade resistant so keep the tractor inside unless your using it

gene bender · Sep 3, 2012

Have you primed the surface first. I have used Rust Oleum I-H RED after primer with good results dries great.

DaveLamp · Sep 3, 2012

In regard to fading, PPG makes a one step urethane they can mix in IH red that is just beautifully glossy and DOES NOT FADE. I painted a Cockshut 20 with it 5 years ago that stays outside at all times and no fading yet. It still looks like the day I painted it. I know you’re using rattle cans but I thought I'd throw this out there anyway.

Baelee05 · Sep 3, 2012

I"m not sure what you expected using spray cans but you pretty much get what you pay for. The enamel paint in most spray cans takes at least 30 days to cure and it never really gets all that hard. For this reason it is difficult to clear coat that type of paint and get good results. I almost prefer a tractor in it"s work clothes rather than one that has been painted on the quick and cheap with little or no preparation. I"m not saying you have to spend big money and have a mirror finish when you are done either. You can spend a few hundred dollars on materials and use an inexpensive spray gun and do a really nice looking job.

Dan Richardson · Sep 17, 2012

Enamel paint is not compatible with a clear coat. Because of the long drying time it is not recommended to wax for at least a year. IH paint was formulated to resist sun fading but being an enamel it will fade over time. The only alternative is to use an automotive grade paint system.

David A. Smith · Sep 17, 2012

You mean 2150 in the can (that I purchase form my International dealer for the purpose of paint restoration) isn"t what I should be using? You"re telling me that this stuff differs from the 2150 in the quart that I would spray on with my compressor? Why do I find this difficult to believe? If it is so then why the heck do they sell 2150 in the can? Come on guys ... tell me 2150 in the can is what I should be using. This is nuts.

mkirsch · Sep 17, 2012

2150 takes 30 days to fully cure whether you use spray cans or quarts or gallons.

sflem849 · Sep 17, 2012

(quoted from post at 07:02:00 09/17/12) You mean 2150 in the can (that I purchase form my International dealer for the purpose of paint restoration) isn"t what I should be using? You"re telling me that this stuff differs from the 2150 in the quart that I would spray on with my compressor? Why do I find this difficult to believe? If it is so then why the heck do they sell 2150 in the can? Come on guys ... tell me 2150 in the can is what I should be using. This is nuts.

It isn't what you should be using. Even with comparable paint technology the paint thickness isn't there with spray cans. Do a Google search for spray can versus spray gun and you could be there until lunch!

rustyfarmall · Sep 17, 2012

(quoted from post at 07:02:00 09/17/12) You mean 2150 in the can (that I purchase form my International dealer for the purpose of paint restoration) isn"t what I should be using? You"re telling me that this stuff differs from the 2150 in the quart that I would spray on with my compressor? Why do I find this difficult to believe? If it is so then why the heck do they sell 2150 in the can? Come on guys ... tell me 2150 in the can is what I should be using. This is nuts.

The 2150 in the rattle cans is the same exact formula as in the quarts and gallons. I've used a bunch of it. The trick, whetehr you use rattle cans or a high dollar paint gun, is to get ENOUGH paint on the tractor. One light coat from a rattle can ain't gonna do it, and neither is one light coat from a spray gun.

And for what it's worth, ALL paint fades if left out in the weather. I don't care what brand it is, what formula it is, or who sold it, it WILL fade if left in the weather.

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