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Super-H-Mike

08-23-2012 08:27:12
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I added a second set of rear wheel wieghts to my SH loader tractor with the intent of increased stability and traction. I was very impressed at how much more dirt/manure I can push before spinning out, it will now start to power out about the same time as it begins to slip , which seems about perfect to me. It "feels" more stable also to me too. So, now I am wondering about adding more, and where is the point of diminshing returns? This is a stock SH used for farm chores. How much is too much for an H , from a power or wear stand point that is. Anyone played around with this type of thing ?

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kennell

08-24-2012 04:47:03
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 Re: H wheel wieghts in reply to Super-H-Mike, 08-23-2012 08:27:12  
I run 3 sets on my M without a loader. I use mine in the woods and like the heavy rear with the narrow front end. For some reason i feel more secure going over the cradle hills in the woods hauling my trailer. The traction is great also. Your loader would be taking alot of weight off your back wheels, so i'd add another set or two for sure. The split weights work well on the inside of the cast hubs. Hope this helps Kent

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uncle henry

08-23-2012 19:37:25
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 Re: H wheel wieghts in reply to Super-H-Mike, 08-23-2012 08:27:12  
i have two sets on my c and super c and four sets on my super mta



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TomH in Pa

08-23-2012 15:59:51
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 Re: H wheel wieghts in reply to Super-H-Mike, 08-23-2012 08:27:12  
Do you carry any weight on the hitch? That gives you double benefit because it transfers some weight off the front end as well.



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rustyfarmall

08-23-2012 12:41:53
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 Re: H wheel wieghts in reply to Super-H-Mike, 08-23-2012 08:27:12  
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The owners manual for the McCormick #31 power loader, which fits both the H and the M, recommends the installation of 3 full sets of rear wheel weights. I have 1 set of the one piece weights, and 1 set of the 2 piece, split weights on my 1950 H with the #31 loader, and get along okay.

The recommended amount of ballast is not only to improve traction, but even more is to add stability to prevent tip-overs.

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Super-H-Mike

08-23-2012 13:04:38
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 Re: H wheel wieghts in reply to rustyfarmall, 08-23-2012 12:41:53  
That is interesting to know about the owners manual for the loader,thank you !



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glennster

08-23-2012 10:31:28
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 Re: H wheel wieghts in reply to Super-H-Mike, 08-23-2012 08:27:12  
mike, on my h i run one set of iron weights and have the tires loaded with calcium chloride. ball park about 500 lbs fluid in each rear tire, and approx 280 lbs between the 2 iron weights. tractor is very stable with the loader and with chains on, will really push some snow. my m has 4 weights and loaded tires also, again a very stable loader tractor. figuring aboy 140 lbs per iron weight, my h would have the equivalent of 9 weights on the back.. 1000 lbs of calcium and 280 lbs iron.

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Super-H-Mike

08-23-2012 11:32:26
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 Re: H wheel wieghts in reply to glennster, 08-23-2012 10:31:28  
Thank you. I am reluctant to add fluid but have more iron wieghts I could put on. On your H , do you have the power to make use of the traction? It seems to me that too much extra wieght would be hard on the tires,axles,brakes and clutch . What is your opinion with your own tractor in that regard?



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wayne in mn

08-23-2012 15:12:42
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 Re: H wheel wieghts in reply to Super-H-Mike, 08-23-2012 11:32:26  
The weight is all on the tire & rim. All the axle bearing carries is the tractor weight.
The clutch & brakes are not affected any more than if you were pulling a heavy load.



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Super-H-Mike

08-23-2012 17:12:13
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 Re: H wheel wieghts in reply to wayne in mn, 08-23-2012 15:12:42  
I would have to disagree. The force needed to get the extra wieght moving and stopped would have to stress the clutch,brakes and axles some what more than a lighter load would.



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glennster

08-23-2012 12:24:45
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 Re: H wheel wieghts in reply to Super-H-Mike, 08-23-2012 11:32:26  
mine are stock. both have been rebuilt some years back, no firecraters or anything. pulling a heavy load, i can slip the tires before "powering out". as the weight is carried on the wheels and not the tractor itself, i dont see it affecting the chassis. as far as braking, i rarely use em, and it is at low speed. with the narrow front, the tractor will turn on a dime, so i dont use the brake to make turns. no clutch problems either. pulling a plow would put more stress on the tractor than just a heavy ballast.

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sflem849

08-23-2012 08:56:49
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 Re: H wheel wieghts in reply to Super-H-Mike, 08-23-2012 08:27:12  
If you are running out of power instead of breaking the tires it sounds like it can't get much better. You could maybe put one more set on incase you get in slippery manure or snow.



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Super-H-Mike

08-23-2012 09:01:54
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 Re: H wheel wieghts in reply to sflem849, 08-23-2012 08:56:49  
Yeah, those were my thoughts also...was wondering if anybody had tried 3 or 4 sets on an H and ended up taking them back off again and why ?



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