labor for T/A in a 1486

jamienky · Aug 15, 2012

you guys think 1300 dollars labor on replacing T/A in 1486 cab tractor is reasonable?

Larry M · Aug 15, 2012

If that is just for labor that seems a little high .

jamienky · Aug 15, 2012

cheapest price he got was 3500 dollars that included new T/A with 5 year warranty and labor,but i can get the same T/A for $762 plus shipping and just wondering what too charge for labor,as this will be my first time putting one in,that will be almost 1500 cheaper than his lowest bid if i charge him 1300,couple guys wanted over 4000

rustyfarmall · Aug 15, 2012

I'd say you're looking at a minimum of 8 hours labor.

Plus, you're going to need a specialized splitting stand and a good shop hoist.

the tractor vet · Aug 15, 2012

If this is your first one on a 86 series then your learning on his dime . Also what do you figure your time is worth?And if ya have never done a T/A job do you know what your doing on the set up ??befoe i started doing anything on a tractor that i had never worked on i would buy one of that series that needed work and i would take my time learning on MY dime, i did not like a come back on a customers as that was on my dime.

the tractor vet · Aug 15, 2012

Ah like about 28 hours as there is a lot more to unhook and put back on over a 06 or66 series

rustyfarmall · Aug 15, 2012

(quoted from post at 09:53:24 08/15/12) Ah like about 28 hours as there is a lot more to unhook and put back on over a 06 or66 series

28 hours would not surprise me at all.

pete 23 · Aug 15, 2012

I would say that is reasonable if he is well equipped and knows his stuff.

Owen Aaland · Aug 15, 2012

IH flat rate is 20 hours for TA, MCV overhaul, clutch replacement, and one hour cleaning. But you're dreaming if you think that you can do it in that amount of time on a 30 plus year old tractor.

IH flat rate is 17.2 hours for replacing TA assembly. At the time the rates were established there was no such thing as shimming the TA assembly for proper end play. You could add another .5 for that.

Add to that cleaning the tractor before working on it. Add 1.7 hours for replacing the rear engine crankshaft seal or .8 for R&R flywheel for resurfacing and clutch replacement with tractor already split.

Add 1.0 for overhauling the MCV. Flat rate for MCV overhaul is 3.3 but since it will already be off, subtract 2.3 flat rate for MCV pump replacement.

Add to that any time required for any additional repairs or problems you run into.

dhermesc · Aug 15, 2012

Agreed - age adds a lot of time to those rates. Bolts that normally turn out are frozen and snap off. Parts that are supposed to be reused are ruined and NLA. Wiring that is supposed to unclip instead snaps.

the tractor vet · Aug 15, 2012

And when was the last time you made flat rate. And a hour of cleaning on most of the junk , oh i mean prime farm equipment that i use to get in and hour on one side might get ya to some of the bolts. Only had one customer that kept his stuff clean. The rest forget it Three or four hours with the hot water pressure washer and strong soap would get you to what ya needed to do then when ya had it apart back out and a couple more hours of cleaning. And ya have never lived till ya get one in that Every bolt and i do mean each and every bolt twisted off and had to be drilled out . I know i did not even come close on that one.

Kevin Meier · Aug 15, 2012

5 year warranty? Is it a diode ta? If so put in a heavy duty ta instead. Dont yrust a diode.

kennell · Aug 15, 2012

I just had a hy capacity TA put in my 766 open station and my Mechanic charged me 250. labour. Kent

charlieu · Aug 15, 2012

As I read all the comments about doing a TA job in an 86 series tractor I just had to post a couple pictures of the TA Handler stand that I have designed for doing a TA job. This stand works very good and saves a bunch of time and it's very safe compared to some setup that I have seen some people use. More pictures can be found at www.charliesrepair.com

dhermesc · Aug 16, 2012

NICE!!!!!

tjiniowa · Aug 17, 2012

Good info. and pics guys, I just bought a 1486 that needs a TA and probably a clutch, I am going to work on it after harvest is my plan. Glad I don't have to remove the cab. Anything else to add?

tjiniowa · Aug 17, 2012

Service manager at CIH that I know told me to pull the TA housing out with the engine, would be easier, could then use hoist to remove it from engine, don't that sound easier, or not. He also said it books at 20hr job.

Jim Naden · Aug 17, 2012

(quoted from post at 13:27:14 08/17/12) Service manager at CIH that I know told me to pull the TA housing out with the engine, would be easier, could then use hoist to remove it from engine, don't that sound easier, or not. He also said it books at 20hr job.

How you split it depends on the equipment available.

We always split the speed transmission out with the engine. If you have a stand that will roll the transmission out from under the cab that is acceptable too.

charlieu's stand looks really nice and addresses having to support the clutch housing once it's out.

As for the 20 hours....as Owen and tractor vet pointed out...ain't gonna happen in that time. Usually a bunch of other stuff needs done while you're there.

One thing we used to find in 1486s was the range countershaft bearings loose.

If there is slop there, the range counter shaft bearings can be replaced and adjusted while split for a TA job.

Question for other techs...what do you do when the owner sends a tractor to you and the cab is full of clutter and/or there's all sorts of extra monitor or control harnesses run in a fashion that makes it extremely dificult to do the work?

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