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Charllie in MO 07-12-2012 19:17:59 75.226.210.236 Report to Moderator	I want to add a set of hydraulic lines to the rear of a Super C Farmall. I want more use out of the tractor, not to restore it so I don't care if putting in the line disables my cultivator arms. I want to add the lines so I can use a small, 10', wheel disk on it and maybe a culti-mulcher, again using it is more desirable for me than correctness. Thank you for you help, Charlie [Reply]   [No Email]
IH fan 07-14-2012 05:46:24 108.238.225.170 Report to Moderator	Re: Super C hydraulic line in reply to 504, 07-12-2012 19:17:59   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see 5'???? Dad bought a new SC with Fast Hitch and got a 7' F-H tandem with it. We had pulled a 7' pull type with a C a few times, but not very deep, just disking corn stalks. Used a JD 60 (about 37 dbhp) on a 10' disk. [Reply]  [No Email]
Charllie in MO 07-14-2012 06:02:21 75.222.172.43 Report to Moderator	Re: Super C hydraulic line in reply to IH fan, 07-14-2012 05:46:24   I still have two 60's they are a good horse, but a horse that eats a lot. But if you work them you have to feed them I guess. Charlie [Reply]  [No Email]
Charllie in MO 07-14-2012 06:02:09 75.222.172.43 Report to Moderator	Re: Super C hydraulic line in reply to IH fan, 07-14-2012 05:46:24   I still have two 60's they are a good horse, but a horse that eats a lot. But if you work them you have to feed them I guess. Charlie [Reply]  [No Email]
mkirsch 07-14-2012 05:24:15 67.253.161.186 Report to Moderator	Re: Super C hydraulic line in reply to Charllie in MO, 07-12-2012 19:17:59   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Wow, lucky break on the hydraulic valve. I hope it weighs 3 tons and produces 50HP, because that's what you're going to need to pull that plow. [Reply]  [No Email]
Charllie in MO 07-14-2012 05:57:05 75.222.172.43 Report to Moderator	Re: Super C hydraulic line in reply to mkirsch, 07-14-2012 05:24:15   LOL, you may be right on that. I'll find out here in a month or so if I get it done in time for when we put in winter pasture. Right now I could almost pull it w/a cub cadet the ground is so hard and no grass to slow it down. We have a 4430 that is our usual disk tractor from what I'm gathering about Allis disks we may have to use it. Thank you, Charlie [Reply]  [No Email]
Charllie in MO 07-13-2012 19:44:16 75.221.101.195 Report to Moderator	Re: Super C hydraulic line in reply to Charllie in MO, 07-12-2012 19:17:59   I bought this http://www.ebay.com/itm/FARMALL-SUPER-C-HYDRAULIC-TWO-WAY-VALVE-LINE-SET-SC-/150735120438?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2318836836 Looked like the simplest way to go and the least expensive all things considered. Thank you all for your help, Charlie [Reply]  [No Email]
Lmack 07-13-2012 15:11:34 24.131.58.167 Report to Moderator	Re: Super C hydraulic line in reply to Charllie in MO, 07-12-2012 19:17:59   I question pulling a 10' disk with an SC. I doubt it will do more than scrach the top of the ground. The standard disk size for an SC was 5'. [Reply]  [No Email]
BoonvilleKid 07-13-2012 18:19:35 24.206.167.192 Report to Moderator	Re: Super C hydraulic line in reply to Lmack, 07-13-2012 15:11:34   We always pulled a 7' tandem. It was all it wanted if it was set at the maximum angle and in soft ground. [Reply]  [No Email]
Charllie in MO 07-13-2012 19:53:28 75.221.101.195 Report to Moderator	Re: Super C hydraulic line in reply to BoonvilleKid, 07-13-2012 18:19:35   The eight foot I pulled was an old lean disk, not at maximum angle and like you in worked ground, just a finish disk. Can't wait to hook her up to an old 540 semi-mount 4 bottom we still have :0). Good luck w/your engine, I'm redoing mine also, pep her up a bit. Charlie [Reply]  [No Email]
BoonvilleKid 07-13-2012 20:58:06 24.206.167.192 Report to Moderator	Re: Super C hydraulic line in reply to Charllie in MO, 07-13-2012 19:53:28   I've got three to rebuild. By the time I get to the third one I may have an idea of what I'm doing. [Reply]  [No Email]
Charllie in MO 07-14-2012 05:59:39 75.222.172.43 Report to Moderator	Re: Super C hydraulic line in reply to BoonvilleKid, 07-13-2012 20:58:06   You looking for a fourth? :0) [Reply]  [No Email]
BoonvilleKid 07-14-2012 07:54:00 24.206.167.192 Report to Moderator	Re: Super C hydraulic line in reply to Charllie in MO, 07-14-2012 05:59:39   Only if it is in excellent mechanical condition and painted out like parade ready. [Reply]  [No Email]
Jim Becker 07-13-2012 11:17:28 173.74.120.222 Report to Moderator	Re: Super C hydraulic line in reply to DanR, 07-12-2012 19:17:59   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeIt needs to also have a built-in pressure relief valve or plumb one in separately on the inlet side of the valve. You can also add a remote valve without the bypass block by blocking the rockshaft in one position and throwing the lever the other way. In this case, the outlet from the remote valve goes to the reservoir. [Reply]  [No Email]
mkirsch 07-13-2012 06:40:18 64.80.110.74 Report to Moderator	Re: Super C hydraulic line in reply to Charllie in MO, 07-12-2012 19:17:59   Either way works, but you can go on ebay and pick up a bypass block for a Super C any day of the week. The fast hitch lines and valve are a little more difficult to come by. There's no need to cut anything. Besides you need the hydraulic block as a reservoir for the oil. You also need an OPEN CENTER hydraulic spool valve, mounted in a convenient location near the steering wheel. Follow the instructions that come with the bypass block for installing and connecting to the tractor and valve. It will tell you which plug to remove and which hose connects to the IN and OUT ports on the valve. [Reply]  [No Email]
NoNewParts 07-13-2012 06:23:26 67.240.145.25 Report to Moderator	Re: Super C hydraulic line in reply to Charllie in MO, 07-12-2012 19:17:59   like said, since you have a SC, best option is the factory lines, valve setup from a fast hitch the bypass block is also a good option saw one setup on ebay where the pressure line was cut and sent to a remote valve, then back to the line to go into the factory setup on one of my SC's which needed a total rebuild on the touch control factory hydraulics... (stuck valves, pump deadheading always, factory remote valve was also junk) I didn't need them, so I got regular C lines, and made a block off plate with just the suction line hole drilled out. removed the plug from the pressure side of the flange. routed it thru an open center valve, with the valve return plumbed to the touch control drain. So, the touch control is just a reservoir. works fine to run my fast hitch [Reply]  [No Email]
CNKS 07-13-2012 06:20:03 216.144.104.128 Report to Moderator	Re: Super C hydraulic line in reply to Charllie in MO, 07-12-2012 19:17:59   A 10 ft tandem disk?--no. That is M sized, an H won't do a good job with it either. [Reply]  [No Email]
Charllie in MO 07-13-2012 06:29:33 75.221.101.195 Report to Moderator	Re: Super C hydraulic line in reply to CNKS, 07-13-2012 06:20:03   I pulled an 8' w/an old Super C 40 yrs ago, stock and worn out. I'm putting a 3 1/4 sleeve set and domes in this one w/340 heads. Why? Got me just want to. It's an old Allis disk and not just real heavy, I won't put the Krause behind it. Thank you for your thoughts, Charlie [Reply]  [No Email]
CNKS 07-13-2012 17:12:44 216.144.104.128 Report to Moderator	Re: Super C hydraulic line in reply to Charllie in MO, 07-13-2012 06:29:33   I pulled a 6 ft heavily weighted tandem disk at full angle 50+ years ago with an H in 3rd gear. Wheel weights and loaded tires. 10 ft behind a SC, even if the HP is close to the H is too big unless all you do is scratch the surface. We used the smaller disk with weight because we wanted to see results. [Reply]  [No Email]
gene bender 07-13-2012 07:25:03 67.55.226.123 Report to Moderator	Re: Super C hydraulic line in reply to Charllie in MO, 07-13-2012 06:29:33   That will be a great running C when its done as you should be in the 26-28 HP range. Maybe more if you put a 240 spring in the gov. [Reply]  [No Email]
Charllie in MO 07-14-2012 05:46:27 75.222.172.43 Report to Moderator	Re: Super C hydraulic line in reply to gene bender, 07-13-2012 07:25:03   Thank you, I hope it does OK too, your words of encouragement are welcome. Charlie [Reply]  [No Email]
gene bender 07-13-2012 03:39:05 67.55.226.123 Report to Moderator	Re: Super C hydraulic line in reply to Charllie in MO, 07-12-2012 19:17:59   If you get the lines from a SC with fast hitch then you will have the ports for a remote cycl. Then you could use the SC remote control valve for your disc. That would be the easiest way without getting the block set-up. [Reply]  [No Email]
504 07-12-2012 21:03:54 64.111.61.44 Report to Moderator	Re: Super C hydraulic line in reply to Charllie in MO, 07-12-2012 19:17:59   Look for a 8ft,a ten foot will be first gear only on my place. [Reply]  [No Email]
Charllie in MO 07-13-2012 17:37:06 75.221.101.195 Report to Moderator	Re: Super C hydraulic line in reply to 504, 07-12-2012 21:03:54   If it don't pull the ten foot well, I'll go back to the old 620 on it and just drill w/the SC. This whole thing is just an experiment, going to change the rears to probably 34's also, I just want to have fun w/it, won't pull it, if so maybe once a year at our Steam Engine show. Kind of make it my own, may also drop the front end down, who knows. Just for fun and a bit of usage too, mainly pulling an old FB-B drill, old but show room new looking. I don't want to argue w/or offend anyone. Thank you all again and all and any ideas appreciated. Charlie [Reply]  [No Email]
Dean Olson 07-12-2012 20:39:06 98.196.66.64 Report to Moderator	Re: Super C hydraulic line in reply to Charllie in MO, 07-12-2012 19:17:59   What you want is a bypass block and from there to a valve then to your quick disconnects. Search the archives, lot's of good info. Bypass block is available from most of the Farmall specific parts suppliers. Hoses and valve available from your local farm supply store. You might look at finding an auxiliary control valve and lines from a SC,200 with fast hitch. That looks more original and a lot cleaner install. [Reply]  [No Email]