what implements can a high crop pull ?

Anonymous-0 · Feb 10, 2012

What implements can a high crop pull? I know cultivators for row crops and spray rigs, but can they also pull chisel plows, no till drills, and the like?

gene bender · Feb 10, 2012

What would the reason for them not to pull a no-till drill.

Chris(WA) · Feb 10, 2012

I suspect they might have too high a center of gravity for some work. Also depending on the lift design, some may be too light or spindly for heavy tillage work.
Good question, I have wondered that myself.

DeltaRed · Feb 10, 2012

You think the makers would put a 100+hp engine in a machine that would not handle it?NOT!!I suspect that a hi-crop will do anything that a regular rowcrop will do.

FC Andy · Feb 10, 2012

My guess is that a person could do anything with a high crop that you'd use a normal tractor for. I personally wouldn't, as you're talking about usually rare and collectible tractors. If I was to use one, I'd limit it's use to cultivators, sprayers and those hill type planters. But, I believe those tractors can take a beating like any other... Look in Tractorhouse sometime. Those high crops coming out of sugar cane country look really whooped... High crop tractors look kind of fragile to me. And I'm pretty sure that if you want a high crop now, all they do is put super tall tires on a tractor. No drop boxes, no high arch axles, no specialty hitches. That's all I've seen, I guess.

My point is, I think they'll take the abuse of farming, but why would you want to put one through that and even risk it? I'd stick to normal Farmalls and such. I think your question is more of what they used to use them for, though. Unless I'm wrong...

mike1972chev · Feb 11, 2012

i think you are not getting the direct answer you are looking for?

If this tractor would have been ideal for EVERYTHING,I doubt if they would have built the other variants?

Maybe the question should be "What SPECIFICALLY did they use a High crop for????" "What will it do beyond a standard row crop ????"

mkirsch · Feb 11, 2012

Plowing is certainly not an option. The drop boxes make the tractor way too wide, and the drawbar is too high off the ground to set up the draft right.

The high drawbar will tend to pull the plow out of the ground. You'd have to hitch the plow so far off to the right of center that you'll be fighting it all the time.

Douger55 · Feb 12, 2012

I will disagree about plowing. I have a 140 Hi Clear and pulled a 2-14 plow this fall. I hadn't pulled anything except a barge wagon before. Yes, I had it as far right as I could, but was really surprised that it did so well. Kinda tough, only run in 1st gear, but grandson had a ball.

mkirsch · Feb 12, 2012

Just because you can do it in certain situations doesn't mean you should, or that it will work in all situations.

I know on the home farm that if I tried to hook an MV to a 3-14 plow and drop it in the ground, the tractor would do an instant 90-degree turn to the right.

sflem849 · Feb 12, 2012

(quoted from post at 16:54:23 02/12/12) I will disagree about plowing. I have a 140 Hi Clear and pulled a 2-14 plow this fall. I hadn't pulled anything except a barge wagon before. Yes, I had it as far right as I could, but was really surprised that it did so well. Kinda tough, only run in 1st gear, but grandson had a ball.

Plowing a garden and plowing an 80 is a little different game. Plow in first and you might not get done before the snow!

Mark Peters · Feb 13, 2012

Found this out while looking for something else. Whilst paging through my 1961 IH Equipment Guide, I came across a section in implements called "Cane Tools". Turns out on the Farmall 560 & 460 Hi Clears, IH made a special version of a 2 pt fast hitch for the Hi Clear tractors and made fast hitch plows,disc plows,subsoilers ,middlebusters and cultivator/bedders. Also had 2 pt on the 140 Hi Clear, but not near as many attachments,just middlebusters , bedders & cultivators. I actually have a 140 HC with 2 pt and a cane bedder. Wish I knew how to post a pic of the page out of the literature.It`s some pretty neat stuff.

Jim Becker · Feb 13, 2012

There really isn't any particular category of equipment that can't be pulled with a high clearance tractor. A lot of the high tractors were used in cane fields and the special cane implements were usually designed specifically for the high tractors. The special Fast-Hitch setups for high tractors were usually much like taking the mounting equipment for the cane tool bars and incorporating Fast-Hitch sockets.

You can put a 1-point on a hi clearance 140, but you will probably quickly discover that most of the 1-point implements will run into the rear tractor tires.

You certainly can plow with a high tractor. Conventional drawbars were mounted low enough on the tractors to hook up to standard pull behind plows etc. They made a specific version of the Super A moldboard plow for use on the Super AV. No nursery would buy a tractor they couldn't do primary tillage with.
http://partstore.caseih.com/us/parts-search.html#epc::mr02-633ar02-633-440-411214

mkirsch · Feb 14, 2012

The Super AV is a different animal from an HV or an MV.

All IH did to the Super A is put 36" tires on it and call it a Super AV. The line of draft didn't change.

The HV and MV have drop boxes on the final drives, which widen the tractor out significantly. As you know, you need a very specific tread width to effectively pull a trailer plow.

The other problem is that those drop boxes put an awful lot of extra torque on the final drive housings. I don't know if they were designed to handle the maximum pull that the tractor is capable of.

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