Farmall 1958 560 diesel

Bo Mack · Nov 29, 2011

Having a heck of a time starting when cold. Just had the ejector pump rebuilt,new glow plugs,new glow plug switch, all new filters and the tank drained and cleaned. If I squirt a small amount of starting fluid it starts and runs great all day. I must be missing something, there doesn't seem to be any reason this thing won't fire right up.....HELP

buzzin duzzin · Nov 29, 2011

compression test? glow plugs?

Brian Dan · Nov 29, 2011

560 Diesels are hard to start in 90 degree weather. My 560 will not start unless I use either in it all summer. Never use either with the glow plugs.

mkirsch · Nov 29, 2011

You could put new glow plugs in until you die of old age, but if they're not lighting up...

jimmyjoe · Nov 29, 2011

My 560 is a easy starter, BUT it is a glow plug engine, 30 seconds in the summer, 1 and 1/2 minutes when it's colder, tank heater for two hours in the winter.

TractormanNC · Nov 29, 2011

You guys that have been using ether to start a 560 probably have low compression due to broken piston rings and busted ring lands. It will NEVER start right until you overhaul it. NEVER NEVER use ether in a glow plug engine!

Allan in NE · Nov 29, 2011

Bo,

Make darned sure that you've got a heavy battery reserve and that the starter and/or cables are up to snuff. They've got to really spin to develop enough heat to pop.

Having these items in top-notch condition makes all the difference in the world.

Now, after all this is said and done, if you have to continually use either on that first start in the morning, I'd sure be thinkin' about that compression.

Low compression first shows up on difficult cold starts.

Allan

Jimmy King · Nov 29, 2011

I have a 460 Diesel, it was hard to start for years. We even put 2 12 volt Batterys on it. The Starter quit and we had it rebuilt, that was the problem all the time. It will never start on all 6 I just hold the plugs until it is hitting on all. It spins like it has no compression, like one post said 30 seconds in warm weather couple of minutes in cold. I have been told the 560D starts eaiser than the 460D.

Anonymous-0 · Nov 29, 2011

To make a 460 Diesel start better (they never started very well when new) drop in a 560 crank; gives it just a bit more compression. The service manager did it to some new ones, against being told by the company it wouldn't work.

pete 23 · Nov 29, 2011

I am sure a lot of 460's were made into (almost)560's engines when they were majored. Need more than the crank though as the piston pin hole is in a different location to accomodate the longer stroke. Far as starting, compression and cranking speed is everything. The piston height over the block varies a lot in these tractors thus changing the comp ratio from one tractor to the next one coming off the assembly line. Thus, one starts better than another one. Later ones with the IH midget nozzles are better starters also. If any head work was done , valve recession is crucial, again for comp ratio. No one thing fits all on diesel engines. IH changed pre cups one the 460 also at one time but reverted back as they did not get the desired results.

RedRoundhead · Nov 29, 2011

Ditto to all that was said, and in addition, check the valve lash clearances. Too tight and the valves will hang open, reducing your compression, but the engine will run once started.

Good luck!

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