Super C baler .....?

Anonymous-0 · Nov 10, 2011

I have heard about a baler made under the McCormick or International nameplate that was made to be run behind a Super C or an H. Is this right and were they decent enough or worth it to find one and get it running again? Does anyone know of any are out there? I have about 5-7 acres I would like to mow for horse hay.

snoop-nc · Nov 10, 2011

I've baled many a bale with IH 46 baler behind a Farmall A. Your C or H would do nicely with something like that...just watch out that you don't crowd the baler too much and get a "plug" it might not want to handle. I think what made it possible to bale with the A is that that baler had an "overriding flywheel/clutch". Farmall 340 was my favorite to bale with...as it had LPTO and more horsepower to handle heavier windrow..., but it often was busy mowing/conditioning and I was left with the A.

Good luck baler hunting!!

Rick

Zachary Hoyt · Nov 10, 2011

I run a New Holland 67 behind my H which has the standard overbore pistons and is otherwise stock. it has no problem at all handling it. I have never had a SC so I can't say about that.
Zach

kopeck · Nov 10, 2011

My Grandfather put up all his hay with a JD 14T and his Farmall A or BN.

The key to bailing with a small tractor is to get a bailer that is self powered rather than PTO powered. I bet a PTO machine would work on a nice flat field but those don't exist around here.

K

IH fan · Nov 10, 2011

A few times when the bigger JD was tied up or when we didn't pull a hayrack and load behind the baler, I pulled a NH 77 with a Farmall C, but it had a Wisconsin V-4 on it.
I know it's been done a lot, but I would rather have either a bigger tractor with IPTO or a baler with a motor. If you plan to pull the hayrack behind the baler and you have any hills at all, you will be a little light with a SC (tail wagging the dog syndrome).

JRSutton · Nov 10, 2011

Exactly

I think it's safe to say any tractor will operate pretty much any square baler if it's staying on flat dry ground, you don't mind going slow, and you single rake the windrows.

So it's more of a judgement call - based on how hilly your fields are and how quickly you want to get done.

JRSutton · Nov 10, 2011

Good point on the wagon.

We alwasy drop them on the ground, so I forgot that as an option.

With a C I'd stay away from that idea no matter what size baler you're looking at.

LMack · Nov 10, 2011

The problem you will have with either of these will be no LPTO. Even when single row raking which is all we ever did when square baling you will have knots in the windrow that have to be eased into. Also there is the problem of re-baling of busted bales. A live PTO is absolutely necessary which is to say either a self powered baler or no go. You will learn to love starting that V-4 the first time every year especially if it does not have a battery start. I saw my dad rig a flat belt and use the belt pulley to start a particularly stubborn motor a time or two.

gene bender · Nov 10, 2011

Of course it will you just need to know how to mow and then rake so you dont have big bunches many bales have been made with the C. When the C was new many were used on a baler just learn how to rake.

bondodust · Nov 10, 2011

We pulled a case 200 pto driven behind our H from 1969 till 3 years ago but the H had a M&W hand clutch which gave it a live pto. O the memories being 13 an sent to the field and bale for the day.

Haas · Nov 10, 2011

Back in the 50s, a fellow that had a Super C with an IH PTO baler custom baled for my dad. That baler was all the Super C wanted and then some. I think it was too much for the Super C. Later another person did most all our baling (probably around 5000 bales every year). As I recall, he had a JD baler and a WD-45 AC tractor. That was a huge improvement over the Super C with the IH baler.

Janicholson · Nov 10, 2011

A self powered baler is Ok with a C and wheel weights to help hold it on the ground. Pulling a wagon behind is not OK. C Farmalls are a favorite tractor for pulling the wagons on flat land with care at 80 light (50#) bales. An H is powerful enough but live PTO and TA is very fine. Jim

dgasper · Nov 11, 2011

We had a big old NH 77 too, and an H and a C. We never even thought of using the C on that baler. At times the H had all it could handle on hillsides. An M would have been a better choice.

53 super H · Nov 11, 2011

My dad pulled a 14-T JD all over our area custom baling pulling wagons behind or dropping on ground with a super H without live PTO Worked great.

Paul from MI · Nov 11, 2011

My word, I don't know how we ever got any hay baled at all in the 50's with no live PTO. Guess we just didn't know any better. I have baled thousands of bales with John Deere A's and B's and D's that never had live PTO. Just got to have reasonably even windrows, not too heavy, and look ahead to watch for slugs. A C might be a little light if you are pulling a wagon and your ground is a bit hilly, but otherwise should handle it. I have baled a lot of hay with a JOhn Deere B that is pretty comparable to a Farmall C. Just be a little cautious and don't try for 200 bales per hour!

IH fan · Nov 11, 2011

(quoted from post at 19:28:05 11/11/11) We had a big old NH 77 too, and an H and a C. We never even thought of using the C on that baler. At times the H had all it could handle on hillsides. An M would have been a better choice.

We had a JD A, then in '53 Dad got his first JD 60... that 60 was like driving a Lincoln. But I do remember using the C a few times on pretty level ground and dumping the bales on the ground... sure wouldn't have wanted to try it on any hills or pulling a hayrack behind the baler. The C got pretty light in the front even on level ground, but it would do in a pinch. Back in the early '50s, not everyone owned a baler, so we did a lot of custom baling... 10 cents a bale dumped on the ground, 11 cents if Dad brought his hayracks and they provided the labor to load, and 12 cents if he brought me along to drive and Dad loaded the bales... needless to say, for an extra penny, I pulled that baler a lot, starting in 1952 when I was 10, the year before he got the 60.

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