B Farmall

Anonymous-0 · Feb 25, 2011

Will the implements for an A or cub fit the B model? Nobody seems to mention the B. Is it a unique model in the Farmall line? Any inherent issues with a B? I'm looking at one to buy for my garden.

Red Dave · Feb 25, 2011

A "B" Farmall is basically the 2 row version of an "A". So, yes, some things will fit, but now all. If you have a specific model of implement Gene Bender on here can probably tell you off the top of his head whether it will or will not work.

Regarding the Cub, very little is interchangeable as the Cub is a very different animal from an A or B.

couv · Feb 25, 2011

saw this one for sale, yesterday, in Alexandria, LA, by chance

Didn't know there were any B's around here

sflem849 · Feb 25, 2011

Heck of a seat on that B! It might weigh more than the rest of the tractor.

So since an A is wider, does that mean A cultivators won't fit a B?

I just bought a B last summer. It sure is different than my SMTA and MD. I am not used to a little guy like that. You can push it around the shed and trailer easily. That is kind of handy. We almost got it push started. If we had a third to run the clutch we could have done it!

Anonymous-0 · Feb 25, 2011

For front mounted implements such as cultivators, the answer is NO. The Farmall A and Cub use a square toolbar mounting. The B cultivators bolt to the side of the front casting.
K-Mo

old · Feb 25, 2011

Some of the equipment will work on both and some will not. I have a sickle mower that only fits the A but I also have a plow that will fit either one. I built a BA just because of the sickle mower that way I can use the mower. The BA is a B from the torque tube forward and an A from the transmission back

sflem849 · Feb 25, 2011

(quoted from post at 12:41:48 02/25/11) Some of the equipment will work on both and some will not. I have a sickle mower that only fits the A but I also have a plow that will fit either one. I built a BA just because of the sickle mower that way I can use the mower. The BA is a B from the torque tube forward and an A from the transmission back

What is the difference between that and a BN?

old · Feb 25, 2011

If I remember right the BN is wider at the rear then an A plus the BN is a trike and the A has a wide front end

rustyfarmall · Feb 25, 2011

(quoted from post at 14:09:05 02/25/11) If I remember right the BN is wider at the rear then an A plus the BN is a trike and the A has a wide front end

BN stands for B narrow.

gene bender · Feb 25, 2011

No the implements will not interchange.

gene bender · Feb 25, 2011

Sorry OLD but what imp do you think will interchange. I have both tractors and stuff for them but aint seen one that will work for both tractors.

Anonymous-0 · Feb 25, 2011

Thanks to everyone for the replies. This is a great forum for info. I'll be pickup up the B tomorrow and trying to get it unstuck over the next few days. Once I get it running, it will be time to hunt those implements.
Thanks again for all your help.

sflem849 · Feb 25, 2011

(quoted from post at 15:04:54 02/25/11)

(quoted from post at 14:09:05 02/25/11) If I remember right the BN is wider at the rear then an A plus the BN is a trike and the A has a wide front end

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BN stands for B narrow.

That's kind of where I was headed. Basically Old made a BN from an A and a B. If it is a B front (single front wheel) and A rear (narrower than a normal B) I just wasn't sure if the BN and A were the same width.

old · Feb 25, 2011

Well as I said I believe the plow will work on both but have not tried it. Yep many thing do not fit both

old · Feb 25, 2011

If the engine is locked up make sure you have no water in the cylinder. If they are dry fill them with ATF. But if it has water in any of them you might as well figure on pulling the head off and doing a bit of work to it

sflem849 · Feb 25, 2011

(quoted from post at 19:27:56 02/25/11) If the engine is locked up make sure you have no water in the cylinder. If they are dry fill them with ATF. But if it has water in any of them you might as well figure on pulling the head off and doing a bit of work to it

I saw the results of on overnight soak with ATF and Acetone and it was amazing. The guy took the head off and scrubbed around on the edges a little and they were free by the next day.

ScottyHOMeY · Feb 25, 2011

The A was always offset -- the left final drive mounts up hard to the differentia/tranny with a short shaft transmitting the power between the two. On the right side the shaft was longer and enclosed in a housing. The i8" width of the housing in between is where the seat and platform are. The front would have been a wide-front configuration offset simlarly to the rear.

On the B, the shaft housing on the seat side is 22" in width, so the seat platform is wider to match it. the left side of the rear also has the longer shaft and 22' housing between the diff and the final drive, so that the tranny and driveline are centered between the rears (not offset like the A). The front end of the B was always narrow with either the NFE (two tires) or SFE (single tire).

The only difference between the B and BN is that the shaft housings on the rear are each 18" wide, making the chassis 8" narrower than the B. That 18" measurement is the same as on the right side of the A.

Comparing all three, the distance between the finals (and so the width of the drawbar) is narrowest on the A, 18" wider on the BN and the B another 8' wider than that.

If it has the pan seat on the original type supports, one of the easiest ways to distinguish a B and BN at a glance is how the outboard, right seat support mounts. On a BN, that outer support bolts up to the final drive and shares a few bolts with the fender, just like it does on an A. On a B, that support mounts to a bracket set in the floor pan about 4" inboard of the final drive.

gene bender · Feb 26, 2011

The BN and A are not the same width and the BN doesent have to have a single front wheel AS there were four different types of fronts available 2 single and 2 double.

gene bender · Feb 26, 2011

The plow hook-ups are different rockshafts also.

gene bender · Feb 26, 2011

What imps are you looking for.

old · Feb 26, 2011

I guess it is good I built this BA that way maybe the plow will also work on it I do know the sickle mower will work

Anonymous-0 · Feb 28, 2011

I'm guessing that the B had it's own cultivators, planter boxes, etc. I grew up on a Super C, have owned a Super A, but never a B. So I'm learning a lot for an old guy. lol
Any suggestions on where to find a breaking plow and cultivators? I'm guessing a drag disc is the only option also?
Also, I noticed last night that the arm that actuates the carburetor rod is cracked and nearly broken off. Where would I find something like that?
Thanks so much for your help.
Deryl

Anonymous-0 · Mar 7, 2011

I really appreciate your help on my B. I found a full set of cultivators, planters and bedders. Problem is they were off the tractor in a heap pile. Is there a manual or website to that can help me figure out how all this mounts? I kinda know how the front and rear main pieces go on, but the hand lift levers and all are challenging.

sflem849 · Mar 7, 2011

(quoted from post at 14:18:06 03/07/11) I really appreciate your help on my B. I found a full set of cultivators, planters and bedders. Problem is they were off the tractor in a heap pile. Is there a manual or website to that can help me figure out how all this mounts? I kinda know how the front and rear main pieces go on, but the hand lift levers and all are challenging.

You can search the good ole internet and have some luck sometimes. I doubt CNH has the parts diagrams online for those implements yet, but you can check.

Anonymous-0 · Mar 10, 2011

Will my B pull a two disc drag type breaking plow?

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