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i have a 52 model super C. i use it for most everything i do including mowing with a 6ft mower moving round bales of hay scraping with a box blade move trailers and stuff. i want to add more power cause when using the bush hog in 2nd gear with the throttle up it sometimes bogs a little bit when the grass is thick and need a little extra. how can i go bout making some extra power. i am doing a full restoration on this tractor soon.
 
Moving round bales and running a 6' Bush Hog with a Super C???? You should really find an M or Super M. Please save that Super C from destruction. If you are moving big round bales with a 3 point or fast hitch, I have personally seen the axle housings crack from the shear weight. Cs have a fairly small internal PTO shaft and can twist it off under heavy loads if you hit something. Super Cs make good belly mower tractors for lawns or other shorter grass. Heck I have 6 of them and love them. One has a C-153 out of a combine and that is a real workhorse. I bought it that way. But when I am doing heavy work, I get one of my Super Ms out.

Brian Schmidt
Janesville, IA
 
You are right on the pto shaft. Years ago we used to square bale with a C pulling a McCormick 45 baler (pto). I have seen it stall the engine many times, and once twisted the internal pto shaft off in too large of a windrow. Actually it is a hollow tube if memory serves. Anyone familiar with a 45 baler knows that was a load for twice the tractor, and one of the poorest balers ever built.
 
i aint ever had any problems with my lil tractor and i will continue to use it like i have been i actually look at the place i will be at before i just start on it cause i dont wanna tear it up
 
If original your engine has a 3.125 bore, the rebuild kits will have 3.25 inches, you can also use domed pistons.
 
A 6 foot brush hog is too much for a SC. You have no reserve power, which is why it falls on it's face with the brushhog. Doesn't matter what you do to the engine, it's gonna "bog" with that behind it. And what's your definition of thick grass? Maybe you need to cut it more often. Bottom line, you need a bigger tractor, or you simply need to use the one you have in a manner that is more appropriate for a SC, with implements that compliment the tractor rather than hinder it. Get a 4 or 5 foot hog. It's not a SM. Shawn
 
You need a bigger tractor or a smaller mower. A 5' brushhog on a tight-running SuperC is a tight fit, meaning even with a 5 footer, the first pass can be a bear and, even after you've opened up an edge, you'll find yourself having to set over and take narrower cuts in the heavy stuff.
 
With a smart operator a 6 ' shredder is not a problem for the Super C. I've been using one for a lot of years. If the brush is over your head you don't take a full 6' cut. You take only what the motor will handle. After I got the pasture nocked down the 1st time I'm now in maintenance mode and can take a 6' pass with good speed. The super C is a lot more fun and agile than an M.
 
When we were selling rotary mowers at the old family tractor shop back in the late '60's, the biggest mower we'd ever recommend for a C/SC was a Woods 59,and that only for lawn/barn lot clipping. For "brush hogs," a 5-foot was our recommendation for an H, and 6-footers were something to hang behind an M.

We sold the FMC SideWinder brand mowers, and until they came out with a 4-footer, we really didn't have a SideWinder we recommended for a C/SC.

So for more power, you have several options. Best is what's best for YOU. You can put in an overbore sleeve and piston kit--Fire Craters or some variation of that would be a good call. OR if you're not opposed to some fabrication, there's always the C153 swap to put the HP into the same range as a stock H. Depends on how "restored" you want your tractor to be, how much work you want to do, and how deep your pockets are.
 
i aint ever had problems braking anything on my tractor simply cause i like to look at the area i will be working. i dont just jump in deep and then say later "shoulda done this different"
 
Anything I have read n rotary mowers says to have the front lower than the back. It takes less power because the blades are only cutting for half the revolution.
 
I put the overbore kit with dometop pistons into my SC last year, turned it into a nice little tractor with good power. I think the kit was around $500 and I had already done the head.
 
Quite correct on the 45 baler. My grandfather pulled one with a Super C for ten years and we went through A BUNCH of PTO shafts, bull gears, and whatnot over that time.

I remember the front cover of the 45 baler manual said "H or larger."
 
Ron, Did you ever find you a battery box and cover for your C? Last I heard you were watching one one eBay. You might also check with the Tractor Barn down near Springfield in Republic I think as they sell both new and used items. They always have a listing in the Weekly Trader if you need their contact information. With spring coming maybe we can find some good farm auctions around with some things of interest. Hope you are getting through this nasty winter we are having and hasn't caused too much extra effort taking care of things, Hal.
 
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