IH implement blue paint

couv · Oct 9, 2010

I looked throug all the implement pictures for Farmall, and every implement showing fresh blue paint is a much lighter shade of blue than what is on my implements. Well, what used to be on "em.

Current pictures show almost a sky blue. THe 3-blade hippers" center mount post with curved bottom plate, and square plate, and curved frame, and axle housings show a few specs of blue, but it appears to be a darker blue. Almost a "navy" blue

What is the correct color ?

ScottyHOMeY · Oct 9, 2010

It ain't high-quality paint (it's okay for duarbility but it fades quick), but VanSickle is the only one that makes the old IH blue off the shelf.

Your descriptionof "sky blue" doesn't sound like anything I've ever seen, so maybe it's a matter of digital translation . . . between camera and file, file to screen). Navy blue would be too dark.

To get a sense of the right color (nothing too precise, mind) google up some pics of the blue the Navy used on its later prop planes (search on F4U), and imagine that color being lighter/milkier, to the point of starting to be bright. Right on the cusp of being dark/light blue, definitely not on the sky blue side of that range.

couv · Oct 9, 2010

good call Scotty-Home -- that's a lot closer than anything in the YTMag/Implement/Farmall pictures ! Thanks

RTR · Oct 9, 2010

I know exactly what you are talking about. Most of the blue implements I've seen are like the color in the 1st picture. However, when I had some high quality automotive enamel mixed up (per the original paint code), it came out like the darker color shown in the 2nd picture.

Which one is closest to correct???

couv · Oct 9, 2010

good call Scotty-Home -- that's a lot closer than anything in the YTMag/Implement/Farmall pictures ! Thanks

ScottyHOMeY · Oct 9, 2010

Whew! That's a tough question.

My own impression is that neither is right, but that the second picture is more the "right" kind of blue. Problem is that one pic has the sun directly on it and the other doesn't. I'm no paint guru, but a moderate dash of black, or some other tint to make it darker, into the blue in the second picture would move it in the direction toward what I'm familiar with.

And, when it comes down to it, the blue that shows in the shade on the rear of the cultivators in the first picture is even closer, but still a little "too" blue.

This recognizing that PPG's formula for IH 2150 red has no red in in it at all. It's tinted with LARGE parts of orange and violet to make the red, with just a kiss of white and black to set the hue.

RTR · Oct 9, 2010

Scotty,
So you think the correct blue is even darker than the blue in picture 2

RTR · Oct 9, 2010

This is the same cultavator as in picture 2, but more in the sunlight. It just might be the way the cameras/computer screens see it too. What do you think?

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Oldiron29 · Oct 10, 2010

Ace hardware has International Blue in spray can.
Go buy one and use that for color match. It is very dark blue. oldiron29

Allan in NE · Oct 10, 2010

Same color as the old Ford engine blue. It's a dark blue, not lite.

Allan

El Toro · Oct 10, 2010

I used New Holland's acrylic enamel blue on my garden tractor. Hal

John M · Oct 10, 2010

Allen, That is exactly what we used in ag mechanics during "Restorations". I think even it was a little light based on what we scraped off. Industrial Touch Up has a good match as well.

Anonymous-0 · Oct 10, 2010

I don't think any of my old IH implements have any of the blue left on them, but it was a very dark blue. Much darker than anything i am seeing on any of these photo's. I would almost say a 'navy' blue, but I believe it might be darker than that.

gene bender · Oct 10, 2010

I have used the Van Sickle I-H blue and it has held up good. It doesent set out in the weather just for parades and shows ect. I have seen the expensive stuff that sets out in a flower garden so forth and it all fades if setting outside year around.

Absent Minded Farmer · Oct 10, 2010

I poked around this morning & turned up a good flake of paint from inside a seed hopper on my corn planter. It is nothing like the colors in the photos below. Definately a deeper blue. I've compared it to Cub Cadet blue & Fordoval Blue. These are very close. I have a NOS water pump from a Ford 460 & air cleaner from a 352 & they are both close, yet a slightly lighter shade. I compared the flake to the colors in a 3M Scotchcal chart & is is an exact match to the Royal Blue sample. Best I can tell you, with what I have on hand.

Mike

F-Dean · Oct 10, 2010

Wasn't some pieces painted black on the old cultivators? Perhaps the square shafts!

That would make the overall perceived color darker.

F-Dean · Oct 10, 2010

Wasn't some pieces painted black on the old cultivators? Perhaps the square shafts!

That would make the overall perceived color darker.

LA in WI · Oct 10, 2010

I was looking for the "correct" or authentic blue when I was prettying up my #8 plow. Tried several colors of blue and none looked like I remembered from yrs ago. Then a friend suggested I see "an older guy" at a NAPA store in Baraboo, WI. (I'm 73 and he was older than me.)

The "older guy" pulled a big paint chart book off the shelf, blew off the dust, turned a few pages and sais "This is what you want, it's the original Harvester Blue. Years ago he worked for an IH dealership.

He said he could make the exact match for it.
He mixed the blue for me and it is perfect in my mind and I am very happy with it. It's NAPA
#53 3736A.

I tried Ford blue...not the same, too light and bright.

LA in WI

RTR · Oct 10, 2010

(quoted from post at 05:50:13 10/11/10) I was looking for the "correct" or authentic blue when I was prettying up my #8 plow. Tried several colors of blue and none looked like I remembered from yrs ago. Then a friend suggested I see "an older guy" at a NAPA store in Baraboo, WI. (I'm 73 and he was older than me.)

The "older guy" pulled a big paint chart book off the shelf, blew off the dust, turned a few pages and sais "This is what you want, it's the original Harvester Blue. Years ago he worked for an IH dealership.

He said he could make the exact match for it.
He mixed the blue for me and it is perfect in my mind and I am very happy with it. It's NAPA
#53 3736A.

What kind of paint is the NAPA paint you are talking about. I use acrylic enamel and it looks good. What is it you are talking about.?

I tried Ford blue...not the same, too light and bright.

LA in WI

Hayshaker · Oct 12, 2010

The original was a fairly dark blue, but not navy blue. I have seen machinery left out and the blue faded over time. The newer cultivators in the 1960's were black where the older ones had the blue paint. As to which cultivators they changed from blue to black paint I'm not sure. Dad's #455 cultivator still had the blue paint and the 468 had the black.

sflem849 · Oct 12, 2010

(quoted from post at 11:49:09 10/10/10) I poked around this morning & turned up a good flake of paint from inside a seed hopper on my corn planter. It is nothing like the colors in the photos below. Definately a deeper blue. I've compared it to Cub Cadet blue & Fordoval Blue. These are very close. I have a NOS water pump from a Ford 460 & air cleaner from a 352 & they are both close, yet a slightly lighter shade. I compared the flake to the colors in a 3M Scotchcal chart & is is an exact match to the Royal Blue sample. Best I can tell you, with what I have on hand.

Mike

So the paint in the seed hoppers never changed over 50 years :twisted:
I don't know if it does, but I would guess there could be fading/darkening especially from seed treatments etc.

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