Hypothetical for you all. Has anyone out there run a haybine with a 240? I'm picking up some additional hayland and I was looking at keeping a seperate set of equipment at one farm so I wouldn't have be driving 50+ year old equipment up and down the highway (a lot of traffic here in Northern VA). I have an M and a 240. The M has been my haybine tractor, but I'm wondering if the 240 could handle it as well. Anyone with experience here?
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I would say probably not but I have never tried it either. We have hooked a 340 row crop to a AC MOCO and it was all that 340 wanted to pull
I have a 240U and have pulled Dad's haybine with his 460.... I wouldn't even think of trying it with my 240... however, I wouldn't "buy" another M either, I'd get something with PS and a live PTO, 45+HP, keep it at home and move the M across the county, but that's just me :wink: .
Anonymous-0
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About 25 yrs ago an old neighbor pulled a 6 ft haybine with a 240rc. I never saw him cutting up close.He baled mostly Johnson grass and prairie hay. He raked with an A,baled with a SC and JD baler.He was eccentric.He pulled all his equipment with a tow bar behind his pu.One time Isaw him towing 2 tractors and baler behind his 1/2 ton pu at 40 mph.You could hear him a mile away. So Iguess it could be done.
this depends quite a bit on your mower, there is new holland literature from back in the day with 240"s hooked to haybines. my 240 put out 32 hp on the dyno before and its nothing special, i wouldnt be afraid for a 7" sickle type haybine, i dont know if it would pull more but how thick your hay is and how sharp your knife is means a lot too
Hugh MacKay
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dubv: My first haybine was a NH 460 and ran it with 300 until I got a 560 diesel and later a 656.
First off you can't run a haybine without Live PTO and expect any kind of production. You tell me what you do when cutter bar plugs and conditioner rollers are full of hay.
Anyhow back to the 300, it was underpowered on that haybine. It broke a half dozen shear bolts per day. 560 and 656 never broke a shear bolt on that haybine. They were 30% more productive than 300 in similar hay
First off you can't run a haybine without Live PTO and expect any kind of production. You tell me what you do when cutter bar plugs and conditioner rollers are full of hay.
Anyhow back to the 300, it was underpowered on that haybine. It broke a half dozen shear bolts per day. 560 and 656 never broke a shear bolt on that haybine. They were 30% more productive than 300 in similar hay
Rather, running the haybine WITHOUT a live PTO hasn't been a problem. Duh, M doesn't have live PTO. Need to learn to proofread the post! My hay operation is on a "pay as you go" budget, so finding a 45+ HP tractor that I can afford up front baling middle quality square bales is the tough part...but I'm looking. I just don't want to put myself in the hole.
Chris
Chris
Al L. in Wisc.
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Read you post and just thought I would do a tractor search on this site. Had to just select a state, otherwise the amount was overwhelming. Got out as far from you as Kentucky and found two 560's; one gas row crop $2400 and a diesel w/wide front $3450. Don't know if this would be in your $ range and then the issue of transport, although if you aren't in a rush, this site 'Hauling Schedule' under 'Community' can be a good place to look. You may also check and or post in the classified ads here as well and hey, there free, something they don't make much of anymore. Good luck.
Hugh MacKay
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dubv: I didn't say it couldn't be done, what I did say is you will not get high production with transmission driven PTO.
Having said that a 240 is a far cry from an M. M will have lots of power for a haybine, that to some extent compensates for non live PTO. The 240 will be loaded to the limit in good going, ain't going to be same kettle of fish.
Having said that a 240 is a far cry from an M. M will have lots of power for a haybine, that to some extent compensates for non live PTO. The 240 will be loaded to the limit in good going, ain't going to be same kettle of fish.
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