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odd 2 row planter for a Farmall Super A

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jay562

05-10-2009 19:29:36
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I recently picked up a two row planter for the super A that i guess mounts to the drawbar somehow and is not ground driven, but rather it looks like it runs off of the same drive that used to run a fertilizer side dresser. Anyone know anything about these planters?




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Haas

05-11-2009 18:29:18
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 Re: odd 2 row planter for a Farmall Super A in reply to jay562, 05-10-2009 19:29:36  
I neglected to say in my post, but the planter I posted the scan of is is an A-218, A-219 or A-222. The A-218 is a checkrow planter, the A-219, a drill planter and the A-222 a power hill drop planter. The only other planter in the Super A implement catalog that would be similar to what you describe is the A-Cub 201 two row drill planter, but it drives off the planter wheels. There are some other rear planters, but they are all multi-row for vegetables. Everything else is mid mount.

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Hugh MacKay

05-11-2009 16:36:28
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 Re: odd 2 row planter for a Farmall Super A in reply to jay562, 05-10-2009 19:29:36  
Jay: After thinking on your responce, then reading the discussion since, I went to the IH bible, 150 Years of IH by Wendel. Page 77, Corn, beet, bean and Cotton planters.

A small two row planter, the No. A-222, designed specifically for the Super A tractor, this planter was of the power hill drop design.

From the photo it's quite clear this planter hitches to the drawbar mounted on front side of final drives, the same way as Super A plows and is lifted by the rear rockshaft. The plow depth control would also control planting depth. Just behind the hitching point is a PTO type shaft, with chain drive back to planting units, PTO shaft is 90 degrees which connects to the seed plate drive on the left final drive.

I can't read the type, but would judge it is same planter as Haas has shown.

I did a creation of my own using the same principle for depth control. I put a one point fast hitch fork on a John Deere 247-247 planter and used it behind my 130. This system gives excellent depth control and placement of seed. I fine tuned this little 246-247 and my 130 one spring, got precise plates for the seed and went head to head with a new 6 row max-emerge Deere of the mid 90s. The farmer that hired me, said my little unit turned out a more uniform stand of corn than the 6 row machine. It was a wet spring, and he hired both of us, I was to do the small fields. I knew I had to do as good quality planting as that new unit, in the past I had planted more corn than these two guys together. It was plant it well, or I'd never hear the end of it.

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jay562

05-11-2009 18:52:52
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 Re: odd 2 row planter for a Farmall Super A in reply to Hugh MacKay, 05-11-2009 16:36:28  
The planter that Hugh describes in the Wendell book looks to be the one that i have. I doubt that there are many left. It is in pretty good shape overall.



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kopeck

05-11-2009 11:55:16
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 Re: odd 2 row planter for a Farmall Super A in reply to jay562, 05-10-2009 19:29:36  
Sounds like the planter I have.

Mine is for a A, not a Super A. You install a small gear on the drop housing and then the planter is drive by it using a chain.

Now to add to the oddity of mine, even though it's for an A mine has been modified to fit on a BN.

I have the manual if that might help.

K



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georgeky

05-11-2009 07:15:50
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 Re: odd 2 row planter for a Farmall Super A in reply to jay562, 05-10-2009 19:29:36  
Could be an A-210. I have an HM 210 that drives off the axle. A picture would really help.



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Haas

05-11-2009 06:22:58
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 Re: odd 2 row planter for a Farmall Super A in reply to jay562, 05-10-2009 19:29:36  

I believe this is your planter. This picture is from and old parts catalog for Super A implements that I have.



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Haas

05-11-2009 06:25:47
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 Re: odd 2 row planter for a Farmall Super A in reply to Haas, 05-11-2009 06:22:58  
I posted this photo using the implement gallery. Evidently, it downsizes the photos. If you want the full size scan, send me an E mail. Also when I uploaded to the gallery, I messed up the title. It says 1948-1952 instead of planter as it should.



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Dellbertt

05-11-2009 04:58:52
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 Re: odd 2 row planter for a Farmall Super A in reply to jay562, 05-10-2009 19:29:36  
Jay, the majority of the name brand sidedressers drive from a two piece flat chain drive sprocket that clamps to the rear axle of the tractor. That way it always spreads at the speed of the tractor. I used lots of them in sweet corn and lima beans.

Dell



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Hugh MacKay

05-10-2009 19:54:55
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 Re: odd 2 row planter for a Farmall Super A in reply to jay562, 05-10-2009 19:29:36  
Jay: Probably something built by a local fabricator. I know of 3 others as I built them myself. I sold all of mine, but not to worry mine were all press wheel drive.



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jay562

05-11-2009 04:25:42
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 Re: odd 2 row planter for a Farmall Super A in reply to Hugh MacKay, 05-10-2009 19:54:55  
No, this is made by International, not homemade at all. It is probably from the 1940s. The odd part is that it drives off the tractor rather than the wheels on the planter. It also has fertilizer on it and uses the same metal cans as the older Farmall side dressers for a one row unit. I just drug it out of a shed that it was in for the last 30 years.



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