upgrade to duals

Anonymous-0 · Jan 22, 2009

Is it possible to upgrade, (downgrade if you dissaprove of the idea)to dual rear tires on a 450,have there is a set for up the road for 100.00 either i will buy them just wanting to you guys opinion on the matter. Tires are same size as on tractor now,

armand tatro · Jan 22, 2009

What are your planning to do with them? For heavy use I prefer axel-mount duals. With heavy use you run the risk of breaking the cast centers by using the clamp-on style. If they are axel mount I would use them without question. Armand

Anonymous-0 · Jan 22, 2009

Back in the 1960's when we ran Farmall 450's we always ran duals for disking and one on the landside (non furrow wheel) for plowing. Certainly gave the following: 1) more traction, 2) less compaction, 3) a smoother ride. The clamp on styles are fine for a tractor of that power. You don't need axle mounts. I still have a set of clamp on duals for a 140 horsepower tractor I use. They work without any problem. Bolt on might be a little easier to put on or take off. The clamp on ones can get stuck on pretty hard with dirt and possibly some rust. Even after the clamps are taken off they won't come off. I figured out that my small hydraulic jack can fit between the clamping band on the dual and the center hub of the tractor. It pushes them right off. Cleaning the rim and smearing a little oil on it might help too with attachment and removal.

charles todd · Jan 22, 2009

I almost bought a set of cast wheel centers for my 504 (38") but got talked out of it by two different sources. They said a 504 did not need or could not handle duals... I want weight and floatation for loader work. I think one reason was it may hamper haying use

I am still thining about calling the ol boy and offering for the centers.

Charles

Hugh MacKay · Jan 23, 2009

Kevin: I have to agree with Armand, yes if they are axle duals. Sure, Andy may not be breaking wheels on 140 hp, but he's also not running early Farmall cast wheels. Some tractor wheels are engineered for snap on duals, others are not.

Whether you need duals is another matter. They reduce compaction, thus allowing you to pull more tillage equipment with less tractor weight. They are a curse in the hay field. They give great stability when doing loader work.

Hugh MacKay · Jan 23, 2009

Charles: You'll love those duals on loader work. I had duals on my 560 with 2000 loader, stability is unbelievable. I didn't need to worry a bit about side hill with loader up. If one pushed hard when filling bucket, it didn't dig holes from rear wheel spin near as bad as with singles.

Now, as I told Kevin, you will say a few unkind words about duals in the hay field.

mkirsch · Jan 23, 2009

Axle mount duals are definitely stronger.

One downside on the older Farmalls is the machinations you may need to go through installing and uninstalling due to axle length.

If the tractor has standard axles, the only way two sets of cast centers will fit is if one is dished in and all the way in on the axle. You're golden if you already have your centers installed with the dish facing in; just slide them in. With the dishes facing out, you've got at least twice as much work ahead of you every time you install or remove the duals, most of it heavy and dangerous, especially if you have loaded tires and/or wheel weights.

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