Is it better up or down..

Dellbertt

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Long time ago I heard someone say that when parking a tractor or implement it's better to leave it up with hydraulic pressure on it than down with no pressure. They said it's better on the o rings and seals to have oil and pressure on them so they last longer and don't dry out as fast.

Aside from the safety issue of leave a three point. bucket or trailer impement raised or the other issue of down but off the ground, what do you guys think. When a tractor or implement is going to set for awhile is it better on the o rings and seals to leave pressure on system or take the pressure off. Or doesn't it make a hang of difference.

Dell
 
I say do the SAFE thing and leave it on the ground never know what can happen when kids are around.even though they shouldnt be there. i believe in leaving hoses and cyls.relaxed. the o rings are always in oil press or not.
 
just my opinion, i would leave the implements down, espesaly if its a loader to keep strees of the frame and the hoses those loaders are heavy. pressure on the hoses for long periods of time could cause a blow out. i would rather replace a O ring than a hose. just put a drop of two of oil down in the couplers to keep the rings wet. but thats me. other people my have other opinions.
 
Dad and Grandpa would never ever leave an implement or loader blade up off the ground. "Good way to get someone hurt" they said. If you have something with a cylinder and you want to keep it from rusting if it is extended just paint some old gear oil on the rod.
 
Del: Leave it on the ground, safer, less stress on hydraulics and in the case of remote cylinders, rust on exposed rams will be a factor.
 
The others are right. If leaving an implement for a long time, relaxing the hydraulics, is a good idea. If components are exposed, they need LPS inhibitor, grease, or other preservation. Many more accidents happen with raised equipment falling than lowered equipment jumping un assisted into the air. JimN
 

Old wives' tale. Under pressure you're stressing the hoses and seals. There's still oil in the cylinders when you lower the implement to lube the orings and seals.

Frankly I have never seen in 30-odd years of being around farm equipment, a cylinder dry out from being left relaxed. Even a cylinder that sat outside on a chopper, partially extended for 20 odd years before it was cannibalized for my plow. Nary a drip.

What I have seen is hoses, hose ends and fittings fail under pressure.

If it's got a transport lock, use it. Otherwise, lower it when you're not transporting it.
 
Down is better with all pressure off the system. But is you park them where it sits on ground you might want to put a pallet or something under it because it can freeze down and when lifted can cause a problem with your tractor coming up on the front end. I've had more then one time my back blade froze down and when it lifted the front wheels came up off the ground, not fun
Hobby farm
 

Fairly mute these days with block heaters ect; however, one of the reasons people would leave a loader raised was so the bucket wasn't froze down (or in the way at all for that matter) if they needed to pull the tractor to start it on a cold day.
 
Replacing a seal is relatively easy. A need to replace a pitted rod usually results in needing to buy a new cylinder. I've run into a number of cases where an owner simply hasn't retracted the rods before long storage - resulting in pitting, etc.
 
I bought a big a$$ dog house off ebay once. Borrowed a trailer and drove 150 miles to pick it up. Got home and used a strap and my frt loader to lift it off the trailer. Set it down and hussled to take the trailer back and when I got home, a hyd hose had busted and I had a big mess and some nice kindling wood instead of a dog house.

My vote is for down.

Dave
 

I'm feeling mischievious today.... :twisted:

I prefer up; however, if you're married, just keep the peace and put it down after use.
 
Every I.H. tractor I have owned will hold the load up indefinately. I leave the object up.
I have never owned another brand that would do this.
 
Just wanted to add that I always leave em down but off the ground. If there is no transport lock I just put a piece of wood under it.

Dell
 
I have seen him three or four times. In person only in groups, not to talk directly. He is certainly an interesting story teller. I think he does good things for the simpler things in life, pokes fun at himself as well as fictious characters that locals think they know (because he builds their character so well that locals Buy in) That in itself is a talent. People around this area fit the image in many ways. JimN
 

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