More 22-36 ???s

Hi all,

Just to make sure my memory isn't decieving me, I better see what everyone else thinks:

1. This has the "aftermarket" throttle linkage (though oringinal "universal" manifold; if someone has one for sale, rain or mouse moisture did it in pretty good; he doesn't have the water injector carb or tubes either, so if someone has it all together all the better!) and he's thinking he'll to keep that style. Not sure if it is from an IH power unit or Heisler though. Regardless, I think the fork and follower are the same? So after-market or NOS for orginal should work for these?

2. The eninge casting is July 1929. I presume that means that the clutch and all the way back is identical to the late 15-30 [my books don't cover the 22-36 version], or did they add more bearings in '29. On the same note, but getting way ahead, are the stencils identical? Who's stencils look the best [if not all the same] on grey? Anyone try the fenders from The Fordson House? Getting that far ahead, how about paint; I just noticed El Toro posted VanSickle's version, a bit darker than Fordson House or McCormickDeering.com.

3. I'll try Alderson, Fordson, and Rice, but anyone have an overhaul kit, how about S&P, or just sleeves? I'm thinking it would be at least .020 over after honing, and that seems like quite a bit.

4. Question 2 just got me thinking it would be nice to prime everything as I'm putting it together. What holds up well, is available in spraybomb [I hate to clean a gun that many times], and would get along with whatever is put on top (a rather variable question I know)? Even better if a close, but not perfect match to the top coat.

I'll probably cut and paste this back to my original thread [which I'm pasting all my pictures to for continuity], after a week or two, so it probably doesn't matter which is replied to right now.

Thanks everyone!

You can have fenders made by Bob Lefever in Peach Bottom PA his number is 717-548-4131 he makes them for 10-20's and he may be able to make yours. Howard at Tired Iron Farm in IN makes them for 10-20's too. Give him a call at 574-848-4628. Hal

as for the paint i would go with the mccormick deering grey . that gray is an exact match to the original gray . everyone else is a supposed to be a close match.may as well make it original. some of them grays look like hell. as far as sleeves and pistons that will be tough. on these old 1000 RPM engines it dont have to be new. give it a good hone job and check sleeves for pits. a few small pits dont hurt anything either. you will never hone .020 with a hone . thats boreing bar work. check pistons, if ring grooves are not worn too much all you need is a set of rings.that engine will still out last you. i am sure you wont be in the field every day pulling a breaking plow with it. back to honeing i think it would clean up with only a couple thou. removed. sure you may have staining and slight pits but that will be fine. every body talks about soaking them and getting them started and i will tell you those sleeves are in a lot worst shape than yours will be. good luck.

They went to different bearings on the transmisison on a 22-36 when the horsepower upgrade was done. Not a good change, either.

Thanks El Toro! I put them on the list; if The Fordson House comes up with sleeves, I'll gladly take their fenders, but I love having options....

(quoted from post at 13:35:44 10/13/08) as for the paint i would go with the mccormick deering grey . that gray is an exact match to the original gray . everyone else is a supposed to be a close match.may as well make it original. some of them grays look like hell. as far as sleeves and pistons that will be tough. on these old 1000 RPM engines it dont have to be new. give it a good hone job and check sleeves for pits. a few small pits dont hurt anything either. you will never hone .020 with a hone . thats boreing bar work. check pistons, if ring grooves are not worn too much all you need is a set of rings.that engine will still out last you. i am sure you wont be in the field every day pulling a breaking plow with it. back to honeing i think it would clean up with only a couple thou. removed. sure you may have staining and slight pits but that will be fine. every body talks about soaking them and getting them started and i will tell you those sleeves are in a lot worst shape than yours will be. good luck.

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Do you mean the stuff from The Fordson House, or McCormick Deering.com (both I believe made their match from painting a sample from a NOS can)? No doubt, some grays just don't look right (done a Regular too light myself quite a few years ago).

Soaking and starting.... yep, I can't deny that myself, and I've found that even if I can get smooth running, power loss can get apparent real quick. The sleeves are .015+ in wear about 1" down, so that's why I figured .020 after cleaning them up and honing. That Regular I just noted with an ugly color, I left about like that with just new rings (though it hadn't been stuck, just very wore out) and actually doesn't seem too bad. I just hate to do something that may 'backfire' when it's not mine.

Thanks!

(quoted from post at 13:58:35 10/13/08) They went to different bearings on the transmisison on a 22-36 when the horsepower upgrade was done. Not a good change, either.

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Thanks! Hopefully, it's not too bad, but this one has seen more than plenty of use.