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Farmall Cub for snow plowing 150 ft driveway

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Jeff Marsh

12-11-2007 20:11:18




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I am wondering how the farmall cub works for plowing snow. I am only planning on doing my driveway about 150 FT long and a slight incline. I see some tractors for sale with this set up. I live in MA and it looks like a snowy winter.




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dave guest

12-14-2007 16:46:52




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 Re: Farmall Cub for snow plowing 150 ft driveway in reply to Jeff Marsh, 12-11-2007 20:11:18  
Used Cub off and on for 20 years in Mich. Gotta have chains. If snow is too deep use backwards. Light snow once down the middle straight, angle blade right, another pass angle left. All done. Alternate was A. No chains on it. Forgot how she did. Try again this year. Cub is a little hard to start below 10 degrees even with 12volt. Well worn though. 100 foot drive.



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dave guest

12-14-2007 16:45:52




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 Re: Farmall Cub for snow plowing 150 ft driveway in reply to Jeff Marsh, 12-11-2007 20:11:18  
Used Cub off and on for 20 years in Mich. Gotta have chains. If snow is too deep use backwards. Light snow once down the middle straight, angle blade right, another pass angle left. All done. Alternate was A. No chains on it. Forgot how she did. Try again this year. Cub is a little hard to start below 10 degrees even with 12volt. Well worn though.



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Brian in MA

12-13-2007 12:25:20




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 Re: Farmall Cub for snow plowing 150 ft driveway in reply to Jeff Marsh, 12-11-2007 20:11:18  
I have a Super-C that plows great in tight areas, but I really prefer my Chevy pickup for a long driveway. Tractors just don't get the speed to be able to roll the snow off the side. I also have an H with the FEL and original farmall plow that was never very well balanced for plowing snow, not enough weight on the back, too much on the front. I have used Ford 641, Ford 5600, Case VAC, Cub and I'm sure there are others too (all with tire chains, they are an absolute must). Of all the tractors, the Super-C moved snow the best, great little tractor, great traction and fun to use.

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Wardner

12-12-2007 10:58:35




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 Re: Farmall Cub for snow plowing 150 ft driveway in reply to Jeff Marsh, 12-11-2007 20:11:18  
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Here ya go. Just what Hugh would like. And the nice thing about is its location. Village Power, Berlin, MA.



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Hugh MacKay

12-12-2007 14:37:15




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 Re: Farmall Cub for snow plowing 150 ft driveway in reply to Wardner, 12-12-2007 10:58:35  
Wardner: Noticed that one before, lot of front end weight for Super A, plus the weight is too far out front of front axle. My blade is much closer to front wheels. Got to watch that one with an offset. The problem happens when they push so much, snow that has fallen behind the blade will stop you from backing away. Even just the excessive front end weight especially if one has pushed down hill, which often happens on the side of driveways. Get that little front tire in a frozen hole as little as 2" deep, and it will stop you from backing away. I put 6.00x16 on the front of my 130, and it rolls over little obstacials much better. That tire looks awfully big on a 130, however I found it made a huge difference.

My blade is probably close in weight to the one in your photo, however the lift arm pivot is back under clutch housing and that pivot is heavy. When my blade is angled it just clears the front tire with room for steering, with blade square across it's roughly 16" from front tire.

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Wardner

12-12-2007 18:04:47




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 Re: Farmall Cub for snow plowing 150 ft driveway in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-12-2007 14:37:15  
Yes, Hugh, alot of valid points.

I like the fact that the engine to bolster joint is not stressed when the plow hits something solid particularly near the outside edges. The joint is very weak on a Cub and perhaps shares some of its weakness with the A design. I dunno. Don't own an A or one of its descendants.

Center lift is the way to go on those small tractors and they are already equipped that way from the factory.

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georgeky

12-12-2007 16:53:07




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 Re: Farmall Cub for snow plowing 150 ft driveway in reply to Hugh MacKay, 12-12-2007 14:37:15  
Hugh, I thought that outfit was a bit much as well.



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Hugh MacKay

12-12-2007 10:01:31




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 Re: Farmall Cub for snow plowing 150 ft driveway in reply to Jeff Marsh, 12-11-2007 20:11:18  
Jeff: If I were looking at any serious snow plowing, I wouldn't look at a Cub. They are a mere toy alongside Super A, 100, 130 or 140. My dad bought a Cub new in 1950, and while we never plowed snow with it, the 130 we traded it for in 1958 was 5 time the tractor on any given job.

My snow plowing days started in the early 50s with a Farmall H, then moved to a 300, then to a 560, then skid loaders, and then an articulated Deere. I have also plowed snow with a 250 hp Champion road grader. Since my retirement I plow my snow with my Farmall 130. Looking at the weight of all those listed machines, I will guarentee you a Super A, 100, 130 and 140 will push more snow per pound than any of the above.

Before I moved, I had a 400' driveway, and good many mornings it was 2' of snow all the way to the road. I lived on a hill with no trees or any other windbreak for 4 miles to the west, the direction the storms usually blew in from. When I moved in there, two neighbors with 100+hp 4x4 tractors laughed at me thinking I was going to keep that driveway open with my 130. 5 years later, they don't laugh anymore. They watched me plow that driveway 30' wide plus door yard far too often in 90 minutes or less.

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georgeky

12-12-2007 07:52:21




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 Re: Farmall Cub for snow plowing 150 ft driveway in reply to Jeff Marsh, 12-11-2007 20:11:18  
I have my grandpa's Cub and blade. I don't use it, but he kept all of his neighbors dug out during some pretty big snows, and never had any problems. It hasn't had the cultivator off it in 15 years.



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Andrew Z

12-12-2007 04:59:42




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 Re: Farmall Cub for snow plowing 150 ft driveway in reply to Jeff Marsh, 12-11-2007 20:11:18  
Living just south of you in CT. I have a drive thats 150 feet by 100 feet at the top parking area (dirt) I have tried many of our tractors plowing snow, from a Cub Cadet, Allis B, Cub, Super C, and H. I useed the H for many years with a big heavy 7 1/2' fisher blade. I could do the plowing no matter what in like 15 mins if i pushed in. However you miss alot and do a far amount of damage to the lawn and what ever else is in the way. The Super C is i think the best tractor to plow with great traction and power. However this was still to big for most of the areas that i had to get into i have a lot of turns and bends. So now i use the cub, great on gas, and you can do real delicate work and not destroy your lawn etc. However like other peopel said you need weight on them i have a set of weights in the front and 2 sets in the back to give something like 550lbs of ballast, and a set of big 3/8" chian on her. It will plow anything that you put in front of it now . There great to plow snow with but need a fair amout of traction aid. Like anything there are pros and cons to them. For me i woould go back to using the larger taractor to plow whit unless i got a nice straight, flat, even drive way lol.

Andrew

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CityBoy-McCoy

12-12-2007 05:20:01




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 Re: Farmall Cub for snow plowing 150 ft driveway in reply to Andrew Z, 12-12-2007 04:59:42  
Andrew: You did a great job of describing the pros and cons of each size tractor. From your descriptions it sounds like the Super A would be the best overall size/weight combination. Any thoughts on that? Thanks. mike durhan



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Hugh MacKay

12-12-2007 15:31:11




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 Re: Farmall Cub for snow plowing 150 ft driveway in reply to CityBoy-McCoy, 12-12-2007 05:20:01  
Mike: What do you plow snow with? If you must use it, my Christmas tree buddies in Nova Scotia do ship refer containers of snow as far south as Florida.



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Andrew Z

12-12-2007 05:38:42




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 Re: Farmall Cub for snow plowing 150 ft driveway in reply to CityBoy-McCoy, 12-12-2007 05:20:01  
Yes a Super A, 100, 130, 140 would be great. I have an A but have never used that one plow with. But i agree with you there Super A is a fine machine to use. Still will need two sets of rear weights on it and chain. But the little larger blade and more horse are always nice to have :) P.S. I really do like plowing with an offset. the other side can be hard to see but just put a marker on it so ya know where the end is. But the visablity you gain the right side is great and you sure can get into alot of spots that you would only be able to to with a tractor of that nature. I would personaly go with a A Super A, 100, 130, 140 then a Cub is a strong second though they are more tractor than most peeople think they are. I once thought they were a toy, but after running one you find for what they are they have some get up and go to them. P.S. They all have there purpose and
funciton and when used to what they were designed to they work awasome. but once and awhile you here people give the cub negative reviews when they say O' man i couldnt get though that 4 foot high grass with my finish mower on my cub lol haha.

good luck with the snow loooks like some tommrow and maybe a Nor Easter on Sat/Sun

(the Cub wont be able to hibernate then ;)

Andrew

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Andrew Z

12-12-2007 05:07:10




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 Re: Farmall Cub for snow plowing 150 ft driveway in reply to Andrew Z, 12-12-2007 04:59:42  
Forgot to add that it takes about 45 mins to plow the driveway with about 6 to 10" of snow. I dont mind i enjoy working it. in ways it is very relaxing..... ..... ... :)

Andrew



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john in pennsylvania

12-12-2007 04:58:39




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 Re: Farmall Cub for snow plowing 150 ft driveway in reply to Jeff Marsh, 12-11-2007 20:11:18  
I was wondering how it would work too. I have a FARMALL A and I am trying to find a plow for it - so far no luck unless I want to drive accross country. I was considering trading it for a cub with a plow - suggestions please



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RAW in IA

12-12-2007 02:29:52




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 Re: Farmall Cub for snow plowing 150 ft driveway in reply to Jeff Marsh, 12-11-2007 20:11:18  
I have on that I built a blade for several years ago. Plow out my drive and a neighbors. They work quite well and are handy, but the narrow blade sometimes makes it seem like you don't gain much each pass. I have wheel weights, chains, and a 200# weight on the drawbar, and it will almost spin the wheels. With that long of drive I would rather have something larger, like a Super A with a longer blade.

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Rusty Wheel

12-11-2007 22:01:17




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 Re: Farmall Cub for snow plowing 150 ft driveway in reply to Jeff Marsh, 12-11-2007 20:11:18  
My father had a cub on the farm when I was a kid. We used it to rake hay and pull wagons around and other light jobs. One winter we put the front cultivators on it , left the back ones off and took all the shanks off but two. we staggered the two shanks and hung the concave off of a Massy Harris 50 clipper combine in front of the shanks. We had weights on it and oversize tires. It worked very well. I now have a 59 cub and am looking to do the same thing with it. Merry Christmas..... ....RW

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Wardner

12-11-2007 21:20:53




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 Re: Farmall Cub for snow plowing 150 ft driveway in reply to Jeff Marsh, 12-11-2007 20:11:18  
They are not too bad if you are plowing downhill. A Cub, with wheel weights all around, was what I used as a boy in northern MA. I also had a couple hundred pounds on the drawbar.

A fully angled plow, necessary for wet snow, will barely clear a path wide enough for the tractor. That becomes a problem when turning. You will lose traction driving over the newly cast off snow.

The Cub can't handle more than six inches but that depends on the snow weight. You will need good brakes for traction and steering. You will also need a shovel to dig yourself out of the terminal snowbank at the end of the push if you try to "stack" the snow.

I used to envy the church next door who hired a local farmer. Two brothers would arrive with a M and H. Nothing stopped those tractors.

I'd never go back to using my Cub. I now use a MFWD 660 with a 8' blade. I'd like to find an 11' blade.

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gmd

12-11-2007 20:45:42




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 Re: Farmall Cub for snow plowing 150 ft driveway in reply to Jeff Marsh, 12-11-2007 20:11:18  
Used My fathers to do our 300yd driveway when I was growing up. Nice, but if its a real heavy wet snow it can be a lot to handle. Wheel weights are a must. For the most part it's not too shabby. Does have some advantages over using utility tractor and rear blade. Compared to a utility and heavy front blade setup I'd take the cub any day. Overall I liked the cub, and will have one of my own, as the bank account permits. Besides the snow, they are great mowing/gardening tractors.

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AlexLV

12-11-2007 20:26:51




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 Re: Farmall Cub for snow plowing 150 ft driveway in reply to Jeff Marsh, 12-11-2007 20:11:18  
Mine works pretty well. I've only plowed about 8 inches of snow with it, but it did very well. I have wheel weights on mine.



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