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D301 turbo ?

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Morgan

10-26-2002 02:13:09
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I need some information if any one has any here. I have a '67 era D301 in a '67 1200c IHC pickup. This was a very rare engine for these pickups and I'm having a hard time finding any info.

Does any one have info about a D301 in a '62 560 or 660 Farmall that came with a turbo? Was there any internal changes to the motor with the turbo? I've been told that there are some higher horsepower D301's out there and that they are becomeing more popular with the antique tractor pulls. Has any one had any thing to do with these?

Please email me any info or reply to this post. Thank you very much for any and all help.

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Joel

10-26-2002 18:13:25
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 Re: D301 turbo ? in reply to Morgan, 10-26-2002 02:13:09  
According to the 1968 IH Parts and Accessories catalog (flyer)IH sold a complete turbocharger kit for the 560-Diesel, part #407055R91. The price was $462. They were available for a number of years and a few are still in use. The kit included a 176 cfm dry type air cleaner, new intake manifold and a straight exhaust pipe. They sound good but if you work it hard or turn the pump up it will stretch head bolts and blow head gaskets.

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Morgan

10-27-2002 12:17:27
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 Re: Re: D301 turbo ? in reply to Joel, 10-26-2002 18:13:25  
Joel, thank you very much for the info. Some of the fog is starting to clear out. What were some of the other weaknesses of this engine. You've mentioned head bolts and gaskets, how was the bottom end, the head, the block? My plans for this pickup are mainly just to be a good, somewhat restored light duty farm truck. Thanks again.



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Harold H

10-27-2002 10:01:53
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 Re: Re: D301 turbo ? in reply to Joel, 10-26-2002 18:13:25  
That is the kit I mentioned for the D-282 that was only supposed to be sold by dealers in high altitude areas and only recommended for use in high altitude areas.

Harold H



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RPM

10-26-2002 06:42:18
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 Re: D301 turbo ? in reply to Morgan, 10-26-2002 02:13:09  
I know that nothing in AG line had a factory turbo on D-282/301. This engine was stressed already wihout it, They did make a crawler model TD9 with a DT-282 with turbo, thats where the parts came from on any turbo that was added as a parts kit. This engine was used in Medium trucks but not turbo (D301). I dont recall such option on pickups.



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Morgan

10-27-2002 12:24:42
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 Re: Re: D301 turbo ? in reply to RPM, 10-26-2002 06:42:18  
Thanks for the info, RPM. I really appreciate all the info I can get on this motor. You mentioned the TD9. That was a new one on me. I knew about the Farmalls and the combines that were supposed to have used this engine but I hadn't heard about a crawler. You mentioned that this engine was "already stressed" w/o a turbo. Could you ellaborate on that a little. What were some of the weaknesses that you know about. Thanks again.

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RPM

10-28-2002 07:08:05
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 Re: Re: Re: D301 turbo ? in reply to Morgan, 10-27-2002 12:24:42  
The D236-282-301 were actually a made over gasoline engine from trucks/pickups (MT) from IH, same basic block with modifications and beefing up in certain areas, pan gasket is same part exactly, so is side cover, lifters, pushrods, early ones had same con rods, rod + main bearings same parts all series, they were overstressed in head areas, gaskets-bolts, wrist pins were larger on later ones, glow plugs were shorter life at higher rpm/hp such as 706/715 application. Kinda like early GM diesels in cars.

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Harold H

10-26-2002 05:36:17
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 Re: D301 turbo ? in reply to Morgan, 10-26-2002 02:13:09  
I was selling new IH trucks (and farm equipment) at that time and the D-301 was not a factor option in the pickups. It was an option in the 1600 and 1700 trucks although we never sold a 1600 or 1700 with this option. I think the block is basicly the same as the 282 block but as I remember the 301 does not have sleves. It would not have been hard to mount one in a pickup as the block is basicly the same demension as the six cylinder gas pickup engine of the time.

Harold H

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Morgan

10-27-2002 12:44:24
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 Re: Re: D301 turbo ? in reply to Harold H, 10-26-2002 05:36:17  
Harold H. thank you very much for your input here. The more info I can get about this engine/pickup the better. You said that this engine was offered in the 1600 and 1700 Loadstars. The guy I bought the pickup from was pretty unsure about the pickup's history. He was sure that the engine didn't originate in this pickup and he thought/assumed that it came from a Loadstar. Research done since I bought it seems to indicate that this engine was a very rare option in these Light Line pickups in the late 60's. You said that it wasn't an option for the pickups. I guess that means I still have a lot of research left. Thanks again for your info.

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Harold H

10-26-2002 05:38:10
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 Re: Re: D301 turbo ? in reply to Harold H, 10-26-2002 05:36:17  
PS,

The D-301 option in the 1600 and 1700 did not have a turbo.

Harold H



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Harold H

10-26-2002 05:43:45
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 Re: Re: Re: D301 turbo ? in reply to Harold H, 10-26-2002 05:38:10  
PS again,

Both the 560 and the 660 had a D-282 not a D-301. There was no factory turbo on either the 560 or 660. Some had M&W turbos added in the field and I believe IHC did have a field kit turbo available for use on 560's sold for use in high altitude areas only.

Harold H



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Hugh MacKay

10-26-2002 03:30:55
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 Re: D301 turbo ? in reply to Morgan, 10-26-2002 02:13:09  
Are you saying you have a factory diesel in a 67 3/4 ton pickup? Is this D-301 same block as D-282? I think this engine was also used in combines, model 403 comes to mind. What does it use for injection pump?



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Morgan

10-27-2002 13:05:12
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 Re: Re: D301 turbo ? in reply to Hugh MacKay, 10-26-2002 03:30:55  
Do I have a factory option D301? I don't know. I'm still researching that. So far I've heard that YES it was a very rare factory option, but from other sources it seems that International NEVER offered it in the Light Line. So right now that is still up for grabs. I am personally leaning towards the factory option side because all the engine accessories(i.e. fuel filters and lines, rad, etc.) look like they were born there not fabbed in after the fact. There are a few other clues there but when it comes down to it I still don't know. I don't think that the engine came originally in this pickup but my guess is that 2 pickups were combined into 1, leaving the pickup that originally had the engine a parts truck. The fuel pump is supposed to be a Roosa Master model yet unknown. The D301 was the same block as the D282 sans the sleaves and counter bore, and so far it seems that it was found in crawlers, combines, Farmalls, Loadstars, and were still unsure about Light Line pickups.

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Harold H

10-28-2002 05:30:23
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 Re: Re: Re: D301 turbo ? in reply to Morgan, 10-27-2002 13:05:12  
Morgan,

Look behind the glove box, or on top of the glove box, or possably under the seat and there may accidentally still be a line sheet glued somewhere in your truck. This sheet showed everything that was on the truck when it was built. Slight chance it's still there but if it is it would answer all of your questions about original equipment. A special order may have been possable but I know the D-301 was a 1600, 1700 option because at the time I thought IH should have made it an option on the light duty trucks. Another possability is that it may have been an option on export trucks.

Harold H

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Hugh MacKay

10-28-2002 17:24:32
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 Re: Re: Re: Re: D301 turbo ? in reply to Harold H, 10-28-2002 05:30:23  
Harold: I think we agree on one item, it would have been possible to put the diesel in the pickup without problems. I had a 1959 IH pickup when I got my 560D in 63. Pickup was an inline 6 cylinder if I remember correctly 264 cubic inch. Later I traded that truck for a 1965 IH pickup again inline 6 cylinder cubic inch again 264. I will stand corrected on that 264 cubic inch bit. In looking and comparing those trucks with 560D,I could see no reason why those engines could not be swiched, with minor modifications, starter, manifold, fan, etc.

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