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'47 Super-A rear lift bar variations 3-point adapters

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J.R.

01-03-2002 05:42:29




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I have a '47 Super-A with a rear lift bar that does not resemble the one apparently required by the worksaver 3-point adapter (HK-95) kit. I do not know if the one I have was designed to work with the Farmall Quick Hitch (which I do not have - but resembles part of the HK-95 to a degree). The picture of the rear lift bar in the HK-95 manual (Adobe pop-up)on the Worksaver site (4 pages or so deep) is not the one I have on the '47. Mine has lift arms that rise off the bar at 45 degrees to the rear then bend down with a chain hook and a pin/cotter connection on the end of the each arm. A salvage operator told me that he thought the rear lift bar I have should work with the HK-95 (and thereby save me $$) but no one at Worksaver seems to know anything about the lift bar that I have. Anybody have any insight ? I know there are some Super-A/Worksaver 3-point adapter users out there. Help! Thanks JR

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WILLIAM BOWEN

05-23-2003 21:05:31




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 Re: '47 Super-A rear lift bar variations 3-point in reply to J.R., 01-03-2002 05:42:29  
IF YOU HAVE THE TWO WAY PLOW ARMS DO NOT USE THEM THEY ARE NOT ! STRONG ENOUGH TO HANDLE THE STRESS OF THE 3 POINT THE RIGHT ARM WILL BEND DOWN FIND A SET OF REGUAR ARMS THEY ARE MUCH STRONGER. I HAVE A SP A THAT HAD THE TWOWAY ARMS AND THEY AR JUNK NOW .



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scotty

01-04-2002 05:03:48




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 Re: '47 Super-A rear lift bar variations 3-point adapters in reply to J.R., 01-03-2002 05:42:29  
JR,
I just pulled the rear rockshaft assembly off my 49 Super A, right arm is welded to the rockshaft, left arm swivels on rockshaft. Left arm attaches to a bracket which is connected to the long rod, which goes to the rockshaft on the touch control.
I will try and post a picture later.
scotty



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SAm

01-03-2002 12:07:36




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 Re: '47 Super-A rear lift bar variations 3-point adapters in reply to J.R., 01-03-2002 05:42:29  
I have a 53 Super A and the rear lift arms that you are describing sound very similar to mine. I could be interpereting this all wrong. I know my tractor used to work with a two way plough that required the lift arms to operate indepedantly. I don't know if this was standard or an option if anyone could post a picture that would be great. Thanks in advance.



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J.R.

01-03-2002 12:22:38




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 Re: Re: '47 Super-A rear lift bar variations 3-point adapters in reply to SAm, 01-03-2002 12:07:36  
This does sound like the rear lift arm set that I have. It looks like the arms off the rocker shaft are built to hang implements, and they do operate independently - and also have a locking mechanism for each arm (left of seat). JR



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Haas

01-03-2002 16:50:56




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 Re: Re: Re: '47 Super-A rear lift bar variations 3-point adapters in reply to J.R., 01-03-2002 12:22:38  
The split rear rockshaft is for use with a 2 way plow. Made so you can let each arm down independently. However, the dimensions of the arms are the same as the regular one piece rockshaft and the 3 pt hitch would work with it just as well. I had a Super A before my 140 that had the split rockshaft and I used a 3pt on it. If the rockshaft you have is the split type, you can likely put an ad in the classified to trade. I've seen several folks that want to use the 2 way plow, but don't have that rockshaft. Also, there is a latch that bolts to the top of the transmission that allows you to release one side at a time of the rockshaft, or the two sides can be pinned together to operate together as the normal way.

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J.R.

01-04-2002 06:22:06




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: '47 Super-A rear lift bar variations 3-point adapters in reply to Haas, 01-03-2002 16:50:56  
Haas et. al. - this is becoming to come into focus. Haas - You indicate that the rockshaft can be used. Do you know how one makes up the difference in height (from the ground, let's say) between the straight out rocker arms of the single piece unit that attaches to the 3-point adapter and the rising rising arms of the two piece unit that I have that apparently will be many inches higher and don't have the clevis swivels as apparently needed by the 3-point adapter kit. Thanks !! J.R.

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Haas

01-03-2002 07:06:25




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 Re: '47 Super-A rear lift bar variations 3-point adapters in reply to J.R., 01-03-2002 05:42:29  
I looked at the Worksaver hitch on their site. It is exactly like the one I had on a 140 years ago. Does your rear rockshaft not have holes in it to which you can attach the rear lift arm bars?? I never saw a rear rockshaft that did not have the holes in it. Can't you remove the chain hooks and attach the lift bars?? A picture of what you have would help.



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J.R.

01-03-2002 07:28:57




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 Re: Re: '47 Super-A rear lift bar variations 3-point adapters in reply to Haas, 01-03-2002 07:06:25  
Haas - I don't have a handy picture but will get one. I'm still hoping someone knows the rear rockshaft I refer to. There are holes in the end of the arms off the rear rockshaft I refer to (as well as chain hanger clips), but probably 6-8 inches higher than the rockshaft you had. The clevis swivels at the ends of the arms of the rear lift shown in the manual seem necessary for the adapter kit, but maybe a chain extension (if lateral motion is a minor problem) would allow use of the hitch adapter. Also, I suspect that the upper adapter part (3rd point bolted to drawbar) may not fit the rockshaft because the spacing between the arms extending off the rockshaft may be closer together on mine. JR

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