Gas-powered International B275 at auction - rough value?

BrianV_

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My neighbour passed away last fall and is having an auction sale this weekend. He has a gas B275 in what looks like excellent / show shape for sale:

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I know a fair bit about the diesel B275s, but not much about the gas option. were the gas-powered motors decent? Reliable? etc.?

Also, how would you value this (assuming everything works)? I can buy a 'runner' B275 locally for $2000-$3000 CAD, but this looks to be in much better shape.

I'm hoping to walk away with this machine to use this summer while my MF230 is down for some extensive refurbishment, but I want to learn a bit more about it first!

Viewing is on Friday, so I won't have more information about the tractor until then.
 
Good little tractors, does it have power steering? That would be a plus. I'd say between 3 and 4 grand if all mechanical is as good as the paint.
 
(quoted from post at 07:11:58 04/23/18) Good little tractors, does it have power steering? That would be a plus. I'd say between 3 and 4 grand if all mechanical is as good as the paint.

I didn't think these came with power steering, but there appears to be some hydraulic lines and a cylinder that seem 'out of place' near the front end in the photo above so.. maybe?
 
Pretty clean looking B275. No factory power-steering was ever offered. My B275 has an aftermarket power-steering kit on it. Very rugged
powertrain still used by Mahindra so most parts are still available new.

Engine is odd by US standards but easy to work on. Uses Lucas ignition parts the same as used on many British cars in the 60s. Carb is also
oddball. British-Zenith downdraft VN or VNN. Has nothing to do with the Zeniths used in the USA. Same carb also used on older British
cars.
 
If it runs good and the dual clutch still works - I'd pay ballpark of $2500. Not many tractors around of that vintage with a 144 cube
engine, a good creeper gear, live hydraulics, and live PTO - along with good parts support. You can run a rear PTO powered 5 foot tiller or
6' snowblower with it which is a big plus.
 
Thanks for the feedback, all!

I was looking at ads this morning, and there's a diesel B250 locally for $2k with a loader. Now, I don't really care for the loader on a small tractor without power steering, but I like that it's diesel:

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-farming-equipment/ottawa/b250-diesel-tractor/1349494041?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

Of course, the condition is likely much worse. How much 'practical' power would a B275 have over a B250?

My only point of comparison is my Massey 230 which specs out similar to the B275.
 
I'd bet the 275 will go for 3000+, unless you're lucky and way out in the sticks and no one shows up. Later 60's running, rough looking MF diesel 135 went for $3400.00 at Stewarts in Erin 2 weeks ago in that miserable rain
and snow weather. There were online bidders also, which were often the winning bids. Wherever they were, I bet it was dry and warmer.
 
B250 and B275 have the same engines and make the same power. Transmission is different on the B250. Gas or diesel they are all 144 cubic
inches. Since gas makes more power then diesel, the gas version makes more power.

These British/Indian tractors are often great bargain tractors. I got my early B275 diesel for $800. That is very low price for a tractor
with a high-low range trans and live PTO.
 

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The B275 gas is a rare bird and is very collectible. They were only sold in 1961 and after. The BC144 is the same engine as used in the B414 gas, 434 gas, 276 gas, 354 gas, and 444 (British) gas. I have a B414 gas and they have the newer VN carburettor instead of the older VNN carburettor. The B275 ran at 1875 RPM and the B414 ran at 2000 RPM. These are tough little engines as most of the components come from the diesel engine. Only the carburettor and distributor stand out as significantly different. The old British Zenith VN and VNN carburettors became problematic in old age but Steiner offers a similar and simplified American made Zenith carburettor. The change is they deleted the accelerator pump as used in cars. Deleting the accelerator pump doesn't affect tractor performance and simplifies the linkage greatly. I doubt there were more than 1000 B275 gassers made.
The B275 was never offered with power steering from the factory and had the lighter round front axle as compared to the square front axle on the B414. It also didn't have a draft control hydraulic system like the B414 had. I would expect to pay $2000 to $3000 for a decent one in areas near big cities where people want them as grounds tractors for their 5 - 10 acre plots of land.
 
So I went and looked at the tractor today - pre-auction viewing. It really is as good as it looks.

It's been on the same farm since it was purchased new.

It has power steering - you can see the silver pump mounted just behind the headlight in the photo. It's a new pump - was put on last fall. The rest of the power steering was put on in the '70s.

The tractor also has had a set of rear remotes added and plumbed into the main reservoir.

No rust, corrosion or leaks that I can see. Rear hydraulics respond well enough, and it started with a turn of the key.

All things considered, other than the fact it's not a diesel, this is probably the best case scenario for an old tractor.
 
Just to close the book on this one - it sold for $4500 CAD. I was in until $3k, after which I wasn't able to justify it. Very nice machine, though - there was a lot of interest at the auction.
 

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