22/36 tractors

Are they rare or worth money? Figure parts would be hard to come by. Thought I saw a post few months back.. might be mistaken.

definitly not rare. they where built for about 5 years up to 1934 and replaced by the w40 model. nobody seams too interested in these old 1920's and 30's tractors from what i see.
they sell from 500.00 to less than 2000.00 for a nice one.

Thanks rustred. Think they look pretty cool. Just don't know much about em.

they were a power house in their day, could pull a 4/16 plow. it was the biggest tractor then, and they helped opened up this country.

From my experience with a w-30 engine, there are no new pistons/sleeves, lower end, or valve train parts. These type engines are really expensive to rebuild if worn out. You can find new ball bearings for the mains, but are expensive also. I found mine through a bearing warehouse here locally. I believe it's cheaper to find one already running. But what fun would that be?

I read that back in the 30.s during the depression they would hook 2 of them together and
do a lot of tillage cheaply. I think you cold but one fairly reasonable.

We have a 15-30 converted to the 22-36 S and P, I would doubt that there are very many 15-30 that have not been converted. The visible difference between the two is a water pump on the 22-36. Our 15-30 ran hot on the threshing machine so maybe the water pump was necessary and maybe the rad was bigger on the 22-36.

yes the rad has larger cores. bigger pistons, rpm increase and an oil filter. 32 spoke rear wheels also. along with other improvements.

Just looking at the tractor, I wouldn't think it could pull 4 bottoms! That is a work horse there. These old tractors are pretty cool, and enjoy learning.

This craigslist post I saw got me thinking about availability of parts, etc. Don't see these around my area.

I see they added Farmall to the name. THEY ARE NOT FARMALLS. The name Farmall has certainly become ubiquitous. It seems many people think every red tractor is a Farmall.

yes i notice the same thing also, from what i have seen is in the U.S. people call red tractors farmall's ,while here in canada you hardly hear the word farmall used on an international or mccormick tractor. we also know farmalls as row crop models.
also on the front of this forum it should titled International not Farmall. farmall would fall under international harverster company. it appears the big cheeses dont know the difference either.

I remember 2 farmers in my home area (northeastern Hillsdale Co., MI) that had and used 22-36 IHC McCormick-Deering tractors back in the
1940's, One was on full steel wheels, the other one on rubber tires on cut down steel wheel spoked narrow based rear rims. Neither tractor
pulled 4 bottom plows, they both pulled 3 bottom plows, whether these plows had 14 or 16 inch bottoms I don't know. How capable they
actually were I don't know....never actually saw them plowing, just saw the outfits parked in their owner's farmyards. Soil conditions vary quite a
lot in this area from sandy loam to red clay with relatively thin (8-10 inches) layer of good loam topsoil as an average. Any tractor that could
easily handle 4 bottoms in sandy loam would likely struggle with the same plow in red clay and red clay loam soils here. I plowed a lot with a
281 cu. inch engine Super M and a souped up to 50 PTO horsepower McCormick W-6 and either of them I'm sure would outpull a stock 22-36
on the drawbar or PTO or belt pulley quite easily. They both weighed around 6800 lbs. The Super M had 14.9-38 Goodyear Traction Torque
tires and the W-6 had 14-30 calcium chloride,loaded Goodrich Super Traction tires. Both of these tractors pulled 3-16 John Deere No. 55ABH
plows quite well, but I'm sure they would have struggled with 4-16's in some of our conditions, for sure they would have to have been weighted
heavier.

I see that tractor has rear road wheels, those are cool. I have collected many 22-36's over the years, they are a great
tractor, not rare here in Kansas but uncommon in some other states. Great power, kinda heavy to haul, easy to work on
other than the heavier parts such as the head and oil pan.

Oh, I would strongly disagree about the popularity of the 20's-30's equipment.

yes soil conditions is the factor. we have dark grey wooded soil and here the W30 was a 3/16 plow tractor. pretty well the same power as the w6. we pulled that same john deere 55abh 3/16 plow with our W6.still have that plow. 3 rd gear was used most times. it pulled quite easily in stubble field. i even remember the john deere sales man coming here to sell dad a 3020 in the early 60's. dad was plowing at the time with his w6, so the sales man jumped on the tractor with him for a round. dad put it in 4th gear and made the round in 4th gear to show him what the w6 will do.salesman left without a sale. it was just a standard model with 4" pistons. had charlyn hydraulics. dad did not like john deere tractors, but had j.d. equipment. even had the j.d. 10' binder which i pulled with the w6 in the young teens while dad rode the binder. i also did a lot of discing with a 10 ft j.d. disc on them plowed fields .
so back to tractors , the 22-36 had a 425cid engine with 4 3/4 bore and ran at 1050 rpm. and was about 30 h.p. on drawbar .
the w6 had 264 cid with 4" bore and ran about 1450 rpm. it was actually a lighter tractor too.
the 22-36 was definitly a stronger tractor than the w6's. the w40 and wd40 replaced them. i plowed with my wd40 with a 4/16 john deere power lift plow. pulled in 3rd rear which is the top gear and tractor hardly knew it had a plow hooked to it. it will handle 5 bottoms easily. we plow about 8" deep. its all in trans. and diff. gearing also.
my WD40 wieghs 10.000 lbs also.

i was referring to the people out there that are actually interested in buying this old stff.the market is pretty dead.