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Case IH 585 Steering problem

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addibeck

02-13-2018 08:47:44




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I have a Case IH 585 that broke the fitting on the end of the steering cylinder rod. I replaced the fitting and it would barely turn left but would turn full right just fine. When turning left the cylinder rod will extend and break the fitting when it bottoms out. After braking and replacing the fitting again it will not turn left at all. It still turns full right fine. When turning the steering wheel left the cylinder rod extends but the front wheels don't turn. Someone on the Case forum said the piston on the cylinder rod has moved and must be taken apart and pressed back to center. Any help will be appreciated.

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donald in mn

02-13-2018 10:59:54




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 Re: Case IH 585 Steering problem in reply to addibeck, 02-13-2018 08:47:44  
the piston on the shaft may have moved .they are a press fit my dads moved once. take the steering cylinder apart and check that the piston is centered on the shaft. if it has moved press it back in place and take a wire feed welder and put a spot weld on each side of the piston to hold it in place it doesnt take much to hold it. it is not a hard job to do



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pete 23

02-13-2018 10:39:54




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 Re: Case IH 585 Steering problem in reply to addibeck, 02-13-2018 08:47:44  
I believe the previous advice about the piston moving on the shaft is correct. The piston is a sweat fit and although I have not personally seen any come loose I have heard of it by others. You would have to take cylinder apart to determine a repair procedure. Maybe get another cylinder as I don't know of a reliable way to make sure the piston does not move again.



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BarnyardEngineering

02-13-2018 10:35:16




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 Re: Case IH 585 Steering problem in reply to addibeck, 02-13-2018 08:47:44  
Sounds to me like something is preventing the wheels themselves from turning left, and you're breaking the cylinder trying to force them.

Disconnect the cylinder from the tie rod, and then turn the steering wheel back and forth. If it seems to move through its full travel with no issues, the cylinder is fine.

Now jack up the front end of the tractor and try to manually turn the front end left and right. If it will not turn left, then you've got a problem somewhere in the front end that needs to be fixed.

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addibeck

02-13-2018 12:35:28




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 Re: Case IH 585 Steering problem in reply to BarnyardEngineering, 02-13-2018 10:35:16  
Now that I listen to everybody's comments I'm feeling like the cylinder rod must be broken. Laying under the front end looking toward the rear, the right rod extends when the steering wheel is turned left but the other end of the cylinder rod does not move with it. If it is one continuous shaft one side should contract when the other side extends. That is why it keeps pushing out to the end of it's travel and breaks the fitting on the end. I will let you know what I find. Thanks again.

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