Farmall H - 3 point or fast hitch

I was having trouble finding a thread on this and what I found talked about add-ons that aren't made anymore.

So modern 1-2 bottom plows and 5-7 foot disc plows (plus anything else) are all 3 point hitch.

With what's still being made what's a good one to buy?

On eBay I found one with a single cylinder. On external link I think theirs had two cylinders. I don't know if it's better to have one or two hydro cylinders on it.

I'm even open to the IH 2 point fast hitch if that was an after add-on. I don't know if that was a thing but I seen 3 point adapters for that and it would open the door to other antique equipment.
 
My experience, I have a Farmall "H", a JD 2-bottom 14-inch plow and a custom 3-point hitch, none of which was made for each other. I finally discovered how to plow, by inventing a turn-buckle that held the plow in position 14" from the rear wheel. The other problem, the old "H" had so much power she twisted the middle-2" pivot bar of the 3-point right round. Had to have it rebuilt / rewelded. My advice would be go ahead and buy a 3-point with both hydraulic cylinders. Once you get it, you'll really work it, and youll need all the strength and capability you can get.
 
Best plow set up for an H is the old trip plow or hyd lift pull type of plow. Many of the after market 3 points do not stand up well to the hard pull of plowing
 
(quoted from post at 10:42:31 02/05/18) Best plow set up for an H is the old trip plow or hyd lift pull type of plow. Many of the after market 3 points do not stand up well to the hard pull of plowing

Bingo!! Go with the plow that was designed to be used with that tractor. Any aftermarket 3 point will never perform as good as a tractor with a factory designed and installed 3 point.
 
(quoted from post at 13:08:36 02/05/18)
(quoted from post at 10:42:31 02/05/18) Best plow set up for an H is the old trip plow or hyd lift pull type of plow. Many of the after market 3 points do not stand up well to the hard pull of plowing

Bingo!! Go with the plow that was designed to be used with that tractor. Any aftermarket 3 point will never perform as good as a tractor with a factory designed and installed 3 point.

I don't disagree with that but how does one fix a plow that you can't find new parts for? I was hoping long term I might be able to future proof a little.

I've also been struggling to find a disc that lifts off the ground. I'm not sure an H can handle the 10 disc harrow. An M maybe...

PS did my original post disappear? I don't see it.
 
This site has two forum modes, a "classic" and a "modern" mode. They're two completely different forum systems, which are kept in sync by some darned clever programming. Every once in a while there's a little bit of a snafu between the two forums, and the original post gets split off from its responses.

When you can't find new parts, you find used parts. That's an easy question to answer.

There are plenty of trailing style plows that you can still get replacement wear parts for. Many Oliver, JD, and later IH models for example. At least on the IH plows, more modern bottoms can easily be installed on an older plow that may have obsolete bottoms.

If you are needing to turnbuckle your plow over to get it set right, then your line of draft is not set right. There are adjustments you can make to get things working correctly. Once set up correctly the plow will trail behind the tractor with no extra bracing.
 

That's weird about the forum. Sounds like a programmers nightmare.

So I by far prefer the trailering implements and that's good to hear that some of them can be adapted to newer parts. I'll start my research on what plows to keep looking for.

What would the max size of a disk be for an H? I was considering a Woods DHS64 or the larger 80" one. I might be able to modify it into a trailer since the 3 point sounds like a waste of $600-1000.
 
Many of the parts that wear out can still be found if one looks hard enough and in the right places.
 
(quoted from post at 20:08:09 02/05/18)
That's weird about the forum. Sounds like a programmers nightmare.

So I by far prefer the trailering implements and that's good to hear that some of them can be adapted to newer parts. I'll start my research on what plows to keep looking for.

What would the max size of a disk be for an H? I was considering a Woods DHS64 or the larger 80" one. I might be able to modify it into a trailer since the 3 point sounds like a waste of $600-1000.

Back in the day, early 60s, our H would nicely pull a two bottom trailer plow or an 8 foot disc. When we got our M, it pulled a 3 bottom plow and 10 foot disc. The smaller stuff got parked behind the shed and sneered at whenever we went by with the M.
 

I was thinking 8 foot so I'm glad to see that.

So I figure this is going to be physically heavier and maybe even have larger disc's than an H would have pulled 60 years ago. Anyone know if the H could pull something like this (link below). I'm just trying to get a feel for what range I can look at in my search for a disc with wheels.

https://www.rands.com/new-equipment/agricultural-equipment/tillage/disks/225-offset-disk/
 
To move it around the yard, sure.

That is a heavy tillage disc harrow. It pulls slightly easier than a moldboard plow of the same width.

It would be like trying to pull a 6-bottom plow with an H.

This is more along the lines of what the H is capable of, a lightweight finishing disc harrow:

http://www.agrisupply.com/ft-disc-harrow-point-disc-blades/p/63622/
 
I have an aftermarket 3-point on my Super H. It works good on implements that don't require any precision as to how they trail, like brush cutting mower, box scraper, rototiller, and such. But, it only works
marginally for plowing. I plow my garden with it, but it is an effort to keep things in line and the right depth. If I had to do some real plowing it wouldn't work.
 
(quoted from post at 17:59:07 02/06/18) I have an aftermarket 3-point on my Super H. It works good on implements that don't require any precision as to how they trail, like brush cutting mower, box scraper, rototiller, and such. But, it only works
marginally for plowing. I plow my garden with it, but it is an effort to keep things in line and the right depth. If I had to do some real plowing it wouldn't work.

I had an idea about how to have a set depth control. I'm just not sure the hitch will hold up with the stress after reading comments.

I'm struggling on finding a disk that isn't 3-point though. Maybe I have to try looking up auctions but I'll probably have to haul that a 100 miles or so. Most people where I'm at are big farm. Small to them is like 25'.
 
(quoted from post at 16:07:32 02/06/18)
(quoted from post at 17:59:07 02/06/18) I have an aftermarket 3-point on my Super H. It works good on implements that don't require any precision as to how they trail, like brush cutting mower, box scraper, rototiller, and such. But, it only works
marginally for plowing. I plow my garden with it, but it is an effort to keep things in line and the right depth. If I had to do some real plowing it wouldn't work.

I had an idea about how to have a set depth control. I'm just not sure the hitch will hold up with the stress after reading comments.

I'm struggling on finding a disk that isn't 3-point though. Maybe I have to try looking up auctions but I'll probably have to haul that a 100 miles or so. Most people where I'm at are big farm. Small to them is like 25'.
Where are you located ? Keep an eye on craigslist maybe even put up a wanted ad. Around here there are "jockies" the deal in the older and smaller stuff. Probably some around you. Just be careful some are not as honest as others. However with machinery look it over good and 9 times out of 10 it either works or it doesn't. That and tillage equipment realy doesn't have much to go wrong. So long as nothing has been tweaked or rewelded.
 

I have land in the northern part of Wisconsin right now. I'm always away from the small family farms where the right sized equipment is more common.
 

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