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Ever heard of an oil filter canister gasket failing?

BarnyardEngineering

BarnyardEngineering

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I took advantage of the warm weather to go out to the barn and start up the "toys." The Super H was unusually cantankerous, flooded, which was ironic because the gas tank was also empty.

After I had it running for a few minutes, I see oil dripping out on the cardboard, bigtime. It was coming from around the base of the oil filter canister. The oil filter canister gasket had compressed and failed.

It's been a few years since the oil was changed, as I don't use the tractor much, like 1 hour a year. So the gasket was old, but I've seen much older that didn't leak.

New gasket, and no more leak. I'll be changing the oil in the spring, even though the oil out of the petcock was as clear as the day I put it in...
 
I had something like that happen to the 1971 Chevy Vega I had. I had put in some of that oil spot leak because it used so much oil. The stop leaks did stop up something, the relief valve in the oil pump and because it was stuck it blew out the oil filter gasket
 
Oh my gosh, Old, you had a Vega and survived physically and mentally. You deserve some type of automobile purple heart.
 
yep, dad had one leaking on his 560 years ago. took the dam thing out and put it together without gasket, steel to steel and no leaks. figure that one out.
 
My dad bought it in 1971 back when motor trend or some such magazine said it was a good car and well while it did ok till it had about 50K on it after that is was fill the oil and check the gas. I got it because my dad wanted the pickup that he made me buy so we traded. I had a number of things go wrong with it while I had it like the transmission case broke due to jumping out of reverse and the oil relief sticking due to the snake oil I tried in it but for the most part it did what I needed and handled pretty good
 
I've had my 300u leak after a while,but more like seepage,I just tightened the canister bolt and that fixed it.Dad used to just replace the filter,and not the gasket-and it never leaked.Go figure.Mark
 
i had a couple buddys that ran vegas at the dragstrip. one guy had a 2 dr hatchback with a small block, the other ran a 2 dr wagon with a big
block chevy. wicked fast but waaay squirrely on the track. the cosworth bring some pretty good money now if you can find one.
 
Never had a vega. Did hear of not getting the old seal out then a second in causing it to leak. Have had old ones leak so usually change them if they will come out decent.
 
I replaced the filter and gasket on one of
mine. Ran it for awhile and noticed some
leaking. After inspecting it closely I found
a old gasket still in there. It was
compressed to about 1/4 the original depth.
It took awhile to remove all the old
material because it was like flint!
 
Yep, My Dad taught me the same way. Only change the canster o-ring when needed. H, Super H, couple M's Super M, Super M-TA, 450, all got a new o-ring only when needed. Tighten filter canister bolt loosely, start up engine, check for leaks, tighten canister slightly if leaking till leak stops.

If that new o-ring gets stretched the slightest bit good luck getting it to stay in that groove.
 
A whole lot of new gaskets are installed on top of the old gasket that many people claim to be the steel base.
 
(quoted from post at 08:25:21 01/28/18) A whole lot of new gaskets are installed on top of the old gasket that many people claim to be the steel base.
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Yes. And if they would change that gasket with each filter change, there would be no problem. Every filter comes with a new gasket. Takes about 10 seconds or less to change the gasket.
 
My personal view is that the gasket should be changed with the filter, and take a sharp pick to make sure old gasket is out.
 
(quoted from post at 14:50:54 01/27/18) yep, dad had one leaking on his 560 years ago. took the dam thing out and put it together without gasket, steel to steel and no leaks. figure that one out.
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Betcha there was still an old gasket packed down low in the groove!
 
Every filter does not come with a new gasket. I believe John Deere charges extra for the gasket.
 
(quoted from post at 12:43:40 01/28/18) Every filter does not come with a new gasket. I believe John Deere charges extra for the gasket.
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Case-IH includes the gasket. Baldwin filters also include the gasket. My local NAPA does NOT include the gasket, and do not even have the gasket available. I do not buy filters from NAPA for my Farmalls.
 
(quoted from post at 06:13:56 01/28/18) I replaced the filter and gasket on one of
mine. Ran it for awhile and noticed some
leaking. After inspecting it closely I found
a old gasket still in there. It was
compressed to about 1/4 the original depth.
It took awhile to remove all the old
material because it was like flint!
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I came close to wrecking a combine engine by being in a hurry and not noticing the old gasket from the spin on filter came off the filter and was stuck to the base. I screwed the new filter on, on top of the old gasket and took off for,the field. Started combining and the separator belts started slipping. Went back to see why the belts were slipping and oil was pouring out from under the filter, running out the side of the combine and onto the belts. If the oil wouldn’t have soaked the belts I would not have known it was losing oil. This combine did not have alarms, only an oil gauge that I rarely looked at.
 
well u would have lost... because there was no gasket in the groove. the next oil change he put a gasket in. i was right there. was just good machined mating surfaces i would say. i been meaning to try it for myself again but now i will that i been doughted.
 
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