1948 m seat

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Can anyone on her tell me if a 48 m ever came factory with a square cusion seat with a back on it with like a pipes style armrest that go from the sides of the button seat pad to the back rest hate to pitch it and find out it was the factory seat on the tractor has 2 smaller springs and 1 or 2 shocks on it any help would be greatly appreciated I want the tractor to look original
 
I believe this is the factory seat for your M.
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From IH at time built you have a possibility of 3 seat types for original. If built sometime in August 1948 or after it could be like the picture in other post. If built from sometime in 47 to serial number 165270 in 48 it could have one like the new tractors in the train wreck that was in 1948 if I remember correct. Or the seat like the steel wheel M in picture was the base or standard seat from sometime in 40 to use on early SM tractors.
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Well in my opinion there's correct, and there's factory, and then there's what makes a world of difference; lumbar support. I have an original 1950 H, stock, original, factory seat, and I bolted on a scrap lumbar support from an old secretary's chair, tossed out in the dumpster. Provides perfect lumbar support, and it may not be factory correct, but who cares. Transforms the old girl into something very comfortable.
 
(quoted from post at 21:24:13 01/14/18) I believe this is the factory seat for your M.
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The Monroe seat, pictured, was an extra cost option that could be installed at the factory. MOST of the Ms and Hs recieved that option. The standard seat, even in 1948, would have been that pipe style.
 
(quoted from post at 20:33:57 01/14/18) Can anyone on her tell me if a 48 m ever came factory with a square cusion seat with a back on it with like a pipes style armrest that go from the sides of the button seat pad to the back rest hate to pitch it and find out it was the factory seat on the tractor has 2 smaller springs and 1 or 2 shocks on it any help would be greatly appreciated I want the tractor to look original

I think the seat you are describing is a "Knoedler-Joy-Rider", aftermarket. There were a few around here.
 
Monroe or seat like the Monroe used by IH not pictured in later parts books, but shows IH part numbers at serial number breaks for parts differences in the Monroe design and IH hydraulic seat could be considered correct for a 48. If serial # was below 165271 for Monroe type or the hydraulic seat for 165271 up. Those seats were called attachments though. Seat on the steel wheel M was standard from early channel iron frame seat end to the end of stage one SM tractors. Later the tractor the more likely it came without the standard seat.
Don't care what seat is on them, because he wanted to know what the type used, 3 choices, standard seat, seat his tractor serial is below or above knocks out one of the choices.
 
My BIL has a 1948 M (don't recall s/n) and it has the seat like those shown in D Slater's train wreck photo in his earlier response. I think they were called Monroe seats due to the shock absorber behind the
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My Dad had an H with a seat like you describe. Did it have some two tool pans under the seat cushion? My Mom said she bought him the seat from the dealer to put on his first tractor. So when he picked up the tractor, she said it had the seat on it. Not sure if it was an option or an after market one.
 
(quoted from post at 13:42:27 01/15/18) My BIL has a 1948 M (don't recall s/n) and it has the seat like those shown in D Slater's train wreck photo in his earlier response. I think they were called Monroe seats due to the shock absorber behind the
seat pan, Hal.

Monroe is the name of the company that designed and built them. Monroe also built very similar seats for Massey-Harris, Ford, and John Deere. Maybe others. I have one that was green when I bought it at an auction. It is red now.
 
I think that's a factory ( installed on the assembly line at Farmall in Rock Island ) seat for a later M. Dad's late 1951 built M, December 7th build date, had that same seat on it when it was new. I also think there was an older style seat with the long shock absorber at the very back like the tractors in the picture D Slater posted of the tractors on the wrecked flatcar. We had a '39 H with that same style of seat. I have NO idea if that was the "Factory" seat, tractor was already 15 years old when I was born. Then there was the rough riding non-shock absorbeted sear like the steel wheeled tractor D Slater posted.

I don't have an M parts book, were there Three or Four seat styles shown in the parts book. ANY seat used on a new tractor built at Farmall should be in the parts books. Any after-market seat installed by a dealer or tractor owner would not have to be in parts book.
 
The seats with the shock absorber mounted at the back of the seat were Monroe aftermarket seats, the ones with the shock mounted forward and below the seat were IH factory supplied Monroe built seats that became standard equipment in the 1948-1949 era. Monroe Auto Equipment sold aftermarket seats for many makes and model tractors right after WW II ended, then after a couple years supplied seats directly to several tractor builders who installed them as factory supplied.
 
Well, after looking closely at the train wreck picture I guess I was wrong, the shock is behind the seat on those new tractors, so they came new that way. Oh well, I've been wrong before so it's nothing new.......
 
If you can find a picture of what IH called the one millionth farmall made it's a farmall M with same seat as the train wreck. Don't know the exact date but think it was sometime in 47. Don't get confused about the millionth one made at farmall works it's a 51 model M. Monroe maybe was the supplier to IH for the seats but IH had them through there parts listed as a attachment. 351932R9? was before serial 165271 with shock behind. Seat 351928R9? serial 165271 up that is what IH called a hydraulic seat and the most common now. Seat without shock was shown from 40 to 53 and the other two number seats are listed as a attachment all the way into SM tractors. First M tractor in my area that came with a seat like train wreck was serial # 148550X1. Do have a picture of some setting in front of a dealership in 47 but doesn't have the month.
 

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