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169c.i.d. I.H. engine in Joy air compressor

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Rustmonger

01-10-2018 16:53:28




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Folks, I just drug in a Joy Brand 150 cfm compressor with a 169 c.i. 4 cylinder I.H. engine, as far as I can puzzle out the same as a Scout 800 engine. Other than blowing out the dust and critter nests, I haven't started in on it, but am sure I will be into the motor some. The distributor (It has a factory I.H. electronic ignition module) was removed years ago, but I found it laying in one of the toolboxes, so there is hope. The fuel pump was disconnected,and there are a couple of obvious hot wire attempts at bypassing the ignition. It appears that someone inflicted a brief, chaotic,furious,and unsuccessful troubleshooting attempt, then gave up. Questions:
Should I just buy a Scout service manual, or try to find specific industrial engine specs?
Did I.H use the same nomenclature for this as the tractor engines, as in C169?
I don't suppose any of you would have any Joy G150S service data I could purchase???? (hey, a guy can dream,....)
Any favored vendors for 169 engine parts?
Any tips specific to this engine that has been dormant for decades?

Thanks for any and all help. Jeff

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Bob

01-14-2018 11:52:09




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 Re: 169c.i.d. I.H. engine in Joy air compressor in reply to Rustmonger, 01-10-2018 16:53:28  
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BarnyardEngineering

01-11-2018 04:59:59




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 Re: 169c.i.d. I.H. engine in Joy air compressor in reply to Rustmonger, 01-10-2018 16:53:28  
If I'm not mistaken it's literally half of a 392 engine. Really, the V8 block with one bank of cylinders unceremoniously lopped off.



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Rustmonger

01-10-2018 18:16:11




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 Re: 169c.i.d. I.H. engine in Joy air compressor in reply to Rustmonger, 01-10-2018 16:53:28  
Sorry about that, I was thinking of my utility. This guy has a 196 cubic inch engine.



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Bob

01-10-2018 18:30:07




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 Re: 169c.i.d. I.H. engine in Joy air compressor in reply to Rustmonger, 01-10-2018 18:16:11  
Your 196 is simply half of a 392 IH gas V8. And basic tune-up or OH "specs" for a 392 should work for your half-a 392.

IH used some really weird Holley E.I.'s that it's tough to get parts for now.

It would be interesting if you can post photos of the distributor and EI module, I probably have schematics I could scan and forward to you, if, in fact, it's a Holley system

Or, there's possibly a "workaround" if the pickup coil or module are bad.

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Rustmonger

01-11-2018 13:51:19




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 Re: 169c.i.d. I.H. engine in Joy air compressor in reply to Bob, 01-10-2018 18:30:07  
Here are shots of the distributor tag and the distributor. The ignition module is a gold box with four wires leading to a molded connector, I will try to get a shot of it when I am near the compressor. From the numbers, I gather it may be a Holley distributor,but please advise if this is incorrect. Given the evidence (coil hanging loose, EI hanging off with a sheetrock screw, loose grounds,....) I am tempted to pull the ignition components and do some bench testing. There may be nothing wrong with them. All comments and help welcome. jeff



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Rustmonger

01-10-2018 18:33:53




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 Re: 169c.i.d. I.H. engine in Joy air compressor in reply to Bob, 01-10-2018 18:30:07  
Bob, I will shoot images tomorrow. Thanks for your help, jeff



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