IH R 505 side delivery rake

hey everyone, I have just recieved an IH R 505 side delivery rake, at least that is what it looks like, I am missing one of the small guide wheels and I am looking for New tires, the big spoke wheel tires are bad, do they still produce them? all the parts are there but the small tire and wheel. I am sure I can find a small tire and wheel but the big tire is going to be the issue.

If that is the old 4 wheel rake with 2 big 36 inch wheels up front and then to smaller wheel in the back I have rims for both but if your a long way for me shipping can get up there big time. At one time I had 2 of them but now all both are is many parts laying aorund

I only need one of the small ones in back, but I need the tires on the 36" wheels, the good year ones are done that are on it.

Old, that small rim should not be a problen to ship. Several years ago I sent one from here in Ohio to Minnesota and shipping by the post office was not bad. They are 2 haves and the halves will lay together without problems and if I rember correctly they will fit in a large flat rate box. Rims should be 11" outside diameter.

That rake model what you have is a part number not a model number If it has 4 bars and a gear mox it is just called a 4 bar enclosed gear rake. If it has only 3 bars just sub 3 in there instead of the 4. If 3 bars and no gearbox it is just called a rake-tedder. The rakes with the 36" wheels did not carry a model number Only when they went to a 15 or 16" front tire did they have a model number and that was just NO. 5 but back rims are the same. I have had and worked on so many of them that I have lost count of what I did have in supplying rakes to the Amish along with New Idea, John Deere, Case, Massey Harris and Moline.

The olny place you will find a new tire is M. E. Miller Tire at 17386 S R 2, Waseon, Ohio 43567 and the tirte is a Firestone at $275 each with tube at $85 each plus shipping. The tire size is 4:00 X 36" so unless you are made of money a cheap way to fix would be to have a 4" wide steel band a quarter inch thick and 44" in diameter rolled and have it welded on. To see pictures of what it would look like go to implements section and look under all the post about New Idea rake and you will see pictures of how that was done on a Deere rake. That option would let you pull it on the road if you did not put lugs on the band. One other option is finding a set of steel wheels, at times they can be found from $50 to $100 each at swap meets. The back wheel takes a 4:00 X 9" tire, notice 9" and not wheelbarrow size of 8". Those will about have to be gotten from Miller as well and they are priced at $40.00 per tire with tube at $10.00. This is all plus shipping. Without doing some checking and it is too cold and too much snow to go out and check now But I think the rear rims from A New Idea is the same and I have a pair of good rims with good tires on that I have no use for asfor what I do rebuilding rakes for the Amish that require steel wheels I have to take off good rubber and put steel on. If I am not mistaken Deere wheels are the same and I have some of them as well but not sure of quality. You do realize the rims are made in 2 halves with being same except for valve stem hole in one. They usually will go bad at the valve stem hole only. I think I am up to close to 80 rakes now that i have handled, rebuilding some and parting out others to use in rebuilding and I have used parts of at least 4 rakes to make one. And some I have had to do nothing to. I got all the teeth and clips to hold the teeth on several years ago that Old had. I am going to open my email if you have any questions you want to ask me about that rake and I do have parts books for the McCormick as well as Deere, Case and New Idea. The wheel for the 3 bar rake-tedder are different than the enclosed gear models but they will interchange except for the very earliest rake-tedder that were not avaible on rubber. I live about 80 mile from Miller tire.

Ya the little rims would not be bad but the big ones would cost a lot

Back when I still used the ones I have I checked tire price and it was around $400 each plus tubes. I said the heck with that and filled the tires with that spray foam stuff which did sort of work but that was about it. I have a pair of those smaller rims but not sure how good or bad they maybe

(quoted from post at 16:25:33 01/08/18) Back when I still used the ones I have I checked tire price and it was around $400 each plus tubes. I said the heck with that and filled the tires with that spray foam stuff which did sort of work but that was about it. I have a pair of those smaller rims but not sure how good or bad they maybe

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K it has the 4 bar with a gearbox, ok i will think about the tires but i might just do it, I want to pull it behind my Farmall A, I am also getting a case model with it, it has all steel wheels but they are doubled rims on each side, no rubber nessacary whew.

Back when I used the ones I have I pulled it behind a B I had at the time. The slider gear in the gear box the one that shifts it in and out of gear broke in to 2 pieces so that is why I parted these rakes out. Both the rakes I have had the gear split

He said the big were OK, just needed tires.

your options are:

a) Buy 2 new tires at ME Miller tire at nearly $300 per big front tire. You will never be able to sell that rake for $600 so make sure it has enough sentimental value or you can get enough actual use (or enjoyment) to recoup that much of an investment.
b) If there is enough of the old tire left and it is not overly rotten, have them filled with foam professionally.
c) Find a identical model rake that had steel wheels in a junkyard or fene crow somewhere for cheap and simply switch to steel wheels.
d) Make some homebrew steel wheels by welding steel rings to the existing rims simulating the same diameter as the tire would otherwise be. (This solution is what my FIL did on an old JD594 rake years ago as buying new tires for it would have far exceeded the obsolete rakes value - rake is still in use to this day).

Ya I saw that after I had already posted this one