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Andrew Leibold

12-31-2017 17:19:40




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I bought a farmall M to restore i was told it was a 1941 but i am not sure and i can not make sense out of any of the numbers. I took pictures of everything can someone please help me figure out all the numbers and letters so i know more about this tractor and what the year is? I was told it was a combine too and it seems to have the mounts for one




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Southern Ray

01-01-2018 14:55:58




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 Re: Farmall M in reply to Andrew Leibold, 12-31-2017 17:19:40  
My M rolled out the factory the last week of December 1941. FBK50727
The final drive, torque tube, and engine were all cast in November 1941



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Goose

01-01-2018 10:59:06




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 Re: Farmall M in reply to Andrew Leibold, 12-31-2017 17:19:40  
Beginning and ending serial numbers for 1941 are 25371 to 50987.



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Andrew Leibold

01-01-2018 06:07:59




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 Re: Farmall M in reply to Andrew Leibold, 12-31-2017 17:19:40  
The engine says FBK- 23659 rightabove the distributer its pretty warn down but right underneath that number it almost looks like there id a /1. Does it matter if all the cast dates are different but they all have J? Also is it possible that it was bought in 1940 as a 1941? By the way thank you everyone for your help i really appreciate it.
Andrew Leibold



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D Slater

01-01-2018 06:41:08




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 Re: Farmall M in reply to Andrew Leibold, 01-01-2018 06:07:59  
23659 was used in a November built 40 model tractor and the chassis number was probably the same or very little difference when built. J codes would fit. If the other number posted is on the clutch housing some parts may not be original.



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D Slater

01-01-2018 07:08:24




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 Re: Farmall M in reply to D Slater, 01-01-2018 06:41:08  
Looked at some wrote down. Lot of the early ones no longer have the original engine block. Closest original I noticed with a quick look is serial 21676 on both engine and chassis. Casting dates are when the casting was made not the date tractor was built. Castings can very from several months to close to tractor build but if after serial number date you can figure one was replaced sometime. Tractor could be a 40 model purchased in 41.

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Cory Schmidt

01-01-2018 06:36:35




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 Re: Farmall M in reply to Andrew Leibold, 01-01-2018 06:07:59  
FBK 23659 is the engine serial (likely a x1(most common) under). The casting dates will vary some(usually with in about a month or two, since some parts needed more time for curing and machining. If the month is Dec (or really late Nov) it would have been cast in 40(J cast code) and assembled and marked a 41. There may be a mix of cast codes(say J's on larger parts and K on smaller) if made with in the first months of 1941.

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Andrew Leibold

12-31-2017 22:50:14




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 Re: Farmall M in reply to Andrew Leibold, 12-31-2017 17:19:40  
i was told it was a two row cropper



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Andrew Leibold

12-31-2017 22:48:52




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 Re: Farmall M in reply to Andrew Leibold, 12-31-2017 17:19:40  
almost al of mine say J after the date and none of them r the same



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Andrew Leibold

12-31-2017 22:46:47




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 Re: Farmall M in reply to Andrew Leibold, 12-31-2017 17:19:40  
49098 is whats left of the serial number



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D Slater

01-01-2018 03:37:49




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 Re: Farmall M in reply to Andrew Leibold, 12-31-2017 22:46:47  
49098 may be all the serial numbers. That would be built the last month of 41. J code cast parts would be cast in 1940. If several or most are J code that makes it doubtful on serial number and castings matching. even if cast in the last month of 1940 that serial number puts them around a year apart. If original the engine may have the same serial number as the chassis around that time period. Should have several K codes with that serial number and very few if any J codes.

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FastFarmall

12-31-2017 18:04:52




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 Re: Farmall M in reply to Andrew Leibold, 12-31-2017 17:19:40  
You probably have to find what year it is by the date codes, casted into the castings, like 6-10-M, means June 10th 1941



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FastFarmall

12-31-2017 20:48:56




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 Re: Farmall M in reply to FastFarmall, 12-31-2017 18:04:52  
ok, K



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John M

12-31-2017 19:11:19




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 Re: Farmall M in reply to FastFarmall, 12-31-2017 18:04:52  
K is 41, IIRC.



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tractorguy2

12-31-2017 18:32:20




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 Re: Farmall M in reply to FastFarmall, 12-31-2017 18:04:52  
What's the formula to get the year 41 out of the letter "M"?



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Cory Schmidt

12-31-2017 19:38:39




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 Re: Farmall M in reply to tractorguy2, 12-31-2017 18:32:20  
IH used letters for year coding cast parts...the month and day cast were numbers then year a letter...FastFarmall must of hit a wrong button someplace....here is the list

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D beatty

12-31-2017 17:57:54




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 Re: Farmall M in reply to Andrew Leibold, 12-31-2017 17:19:40  

This is where serial number is if it still has tag.



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John M

12-31-2017 17:46:20




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 Re: Farmall M in reply to Andrew Leibold, 12-31-2017 17:19:40  
What does the serial number tag have on it? I suspect its a cotton harvester, not a combine.



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Andrew Leibold

12-31-2017 17:29:42




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 Re: Farmall M in reply to Andrew Leibold, 12-31-2017 17:19:40  
i cant find it



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Janicholson

12-31-2017 17:24:42




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 Re: Farmall M in reply to Andrew Leibold, 12-31-2017 17:19:40  
You will need to ask permission from Kim (left on "Feedback Forum" this prevents inappropriate images from being posted by nasties. Jim



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