Super M cultivator

Anyone have experience with with a Farmall HM-221 two row cultivator? Have a pile of parts (lift cylinders, lift pipe, gang beams, spring teeth, shields, etc.) and the manual from my grandpa.

Not sure how or why he came to have it; he bought his Super M new to replace a regular H, the parts look well used, and he raised sheep, cattle, and hay. He wasn't ever a row cropper.

Would like to mount it someday. But will have to find a Super M, as grandpa traded his in on a 424, something he regretted!
 
You sure it didn't come with the H? Maybe the H was used and he had to take the cultivator to get the tractor. You know about what year he got the H?

Check the spacing of the front mounting brackets on the large front angle iron. The width might tell you if it was on an H or M.
 
Jim is probably right that the 2-row is off of an H.
Most SMs would have had a 4-row culti. by that time
frame.
Jim
 
If I remember right the front angle has two sets of holes for either a H or M and the lift rods were adgustible length
 
I don?t know what the model number of the 2 row IH cultivators we had back on the farm in KS
were but they fit either an H or M. You would just need to adjust all the row tools (shovels and
discs) to the proper spacing for your row widths to compensate for the difference between the
frame widths of the tractors.
 
I doubt he got it with the H, as he bought it new and it wasn't a Super, so these cultivators wouldn't work on it. The parts are scattered and I'm not sure we have the complete setup.
 
I don't know where you got the idea an HM-221 would only work on a Super. It was built from 1940 to 1952. They quit making them the same year the Super M came out and a year before the Super H came out.

You have the manual. Read the first couple pages.
 
I never said I belived it would work only on a super, I did say though that I have the hydraulic cylinders in my original post. Read it, like I’ve read the manual. I’m looking for folks with experience with that model, not condecention.
 
mbrady.glide: "I never said I belived it would work only on a super."

I read your first post, also read the second:

mbrady.glide: "I doubt he got it with the H, as he bought it new and it wasn't a Super, so these cultivators wouldn't work on it."

Four people responded to your original post, every one of us confirmed it fit an H, Super or not. If you are going to ignore the answers, don't ask a question.
 
What I was saying is that this particular set of cultivators, which is a hydraulic, not a manual setup, would not have functioned on a regular H (barring some aftermarket pump). Its apparent from the model number alone that it was made for both the H and M. Rather than bickering about who’s right, how about some convertion about firsthand experience operating said cultivators; the point of my original post.
 
The hm221 steering cultivator was a
improved version of the hm219 which was
adapted from f20 cultivators for use on the
39 and 40 h and m series tractors. The
hm221 was offered as either hydraulic or
hand lift. All farmall h and m tractors
were available from the factory with
factory installed hydraulics (belly pump).
The set of hm221 cultivators you have would
have been on the H not the super m, as the
hm221 had ended production by the time the
super m came into production and they were
also outdated by the more popular and
better hm238 and hm250 2 row cultivators
and the m448 4 row cultivator. There are
alot of peices required in mounting a hm221
including the steering brackets for bolster
shaft. By the way I have numerous set of
mounted cultivators,planters,plows and
other hm and super series mounted
implements.
 
I have an 1939-'40 HM-221 on an M. The early cultivator uses a bent rod that goes to one side to throw out the steerable part when lifting the cultivator. The front mounting bracket for the front lift cylinders is different, too. Mine is a 3-cylinder lift with drop-retarder, 4 shanks up front, 7 in the rear. It came off of an H when I bought it. I think that I had to swap the front mounting brackets from L-R/R-L and that is how the difference in frame width from the narrower H to the wider M is made up for. The steering arms on the tractors won't interchange between the H and M, and some H's used a round key on the steering shaft, some used a woodruff key, so there's (at least) 2 different arms for the H.

These cultivators were made with many different tooling and lift options. There's about 6 or so different versions of the operator's manual, depending on what year the cultivator was made.

If you have the front steering arm that goes on the tractor, or, if the front mounting brackets are still attached to the angle iron cross frame, you could tell which tractor your cultivator was used on.

AG
 
If the H had a factory installed hydraulic pump, what would I look for in some old pictures of it? Control levers, reservoir, etc. I suspect I've only got the major pieces of the lift mechanism, and I don't think I've found the front tool bars. When my grandparents moved I doubt everything came along with them.
 
The hydraulic pump on a h is in the belly
in front of transmission. The is a lever
that runs from steering post just above
brake pedals down to the centerms section
of tractor. The fill pipe comes out the top
and there is one presure port on right side
and 2 on left side of center section. Most
likely you are missing parts as it is
getting hard to find complete implements
these days, alot gets lost over time.
 

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