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#@$%#% tractor

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shawn

03-03-2001 07:52:26
209.217.195.218



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I have a Super AV.I'm 15 years old and can't afford the problems.It was fine but then it just deid. I rewired it about a year ago and gave it a complete tune up a few days ago.I got it a battery 2 weeks ago and a starter less then a year ago.It won't even hand crank. Whats wrong? I can't figure it out.( I checked all the connections ) Thanks, Shawn S.




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W.W.

03-04-2001 08:00:27
209.240.221.134



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 Re: #@$%#% tractor in reply to shawn, 03-03-2001 07:52:26  

hey Shawn, where are you? maybe I can take that trouble off your hands.



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Alvin

03-03-2001 19:44:52
204.246.218.185



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 Re: #@$%#% tractor in reply to shawn, 03-03-2001 07:52:26  
I have talked to my tractors like that and I found out 'it doesn't help".You have to still be nice and fix their ailment,course my JD isn't smart enough to notice.



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dave

03-03-2001 20:12:09
208.224.41.51



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 Re: Re: #@$%#% tractor in reply to Alvin, 03-03-2001 19:44:52  
i heard on the jd board,she's trying to find a new owner



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BILL R

03-03-2001 15:08:26
204.39.225.22



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 Re: #@$%#% tractor in reply to shawn, 03-03-2001 07:52:26  
I MIght add to try taking off the dist. cap and look at the closed points then open them with a screwdriver (with switch on)to check for spark.



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shawn

03-03-2001 11:57:18
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 Re: #@$%#% tractor in reply to shawn, 03-03-2001 07:52:26  
It did not work.The thing has been trouble since I got it.The engine does turn over but does not fire. The coil is new. Could the carb need to be rebuilt the float has been sticking. Could it be stuck open?



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twopop

03-03-2001 17:22:29
208.209.103.47



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 Re: Re: #@$%#% tractor in reply to shawn, 03-03-2001 11:57:18  
Shawn,if you have a 12v test light,turn on the ign. switch and test for power on ign. side of coil.if you have power,test coil to dist wire.turn engine over while testing.the light should flash.if it doesnt you have a point set problem.every time the light flashes,the coil will fire.you could have grease on the points.if you have fire take the plugs out and then put the wire back on them,ground the plug body to the engine and turn motor over to see if the plug sparks properly or if it is gas fouled.if the float is stuck open gas would probably be dripping from the carb throat.

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The Red

03-03-2001 12:38:29
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 Re: Re: #@$%#% tractor in reply to shawn, 03-03-2001 11:57:18  
Shawn shoot some starter fluid into the carb throat. Turn on the coil switch, crank and if she sputters, then fuel starvation is your likely culprit. Don't forget to open the fuel strainer!

If it does not sputter or start, then check to see if you are getting voltage to the coil.



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Scott Green

03-03-2001 09:23:19
206.57.106.176



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 Re: #@$%#% tractor in reply to shawn, 03-03-2001 07:52:26  
Hi Shawn , When you said you couldn't turn it by hand , it reminded me of an "H" that we had. Have some hold the clutch pedel down. Or some how fasten it down. Then try turning the engine by hand. If the engine turns , that means your transmission is froze , due to water in the rear end. If that's the case , heat the rear end up. We just biult a fire under ours. I would recommend a salamander if you have one. If not , a fire will do just fine. After thawed , change oil in rear end. We just dumped a gallon of antifreeze in ours until spring time. Never had any problems after that.

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MikeH-Tx

03-03-2001 08:13:55
208.2.106.120



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 Re: #@$%#% tractor in reply to shawn, 03-03-2001 07:52:26  
Shawn, check the easy stuff first. Have someone check the voltage at the starter (heavy wire) while you are trying to crank. If you see zero volts, you have a bad starter switch or solenoid, or wiring (trace back toward the battery to find which). If you have full voltage (12?) you have a dead starter. Somewhere in between and Red's guess is a good one (or you have dirty wires to the battery or ground or both).

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John

03-03-2001 23:42:51
205.218.161.34



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 Re: Re: #@$%#% tractor in reply to MikeH-Tx, 03-03-2001 08:13:55  
Mike

Super A's have six volt electrical systems!



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The Red

03-03-2001 07:58:43
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 Re: #@$%#% tractor in reply to shawn, 03-03-2001 07:52:26  
Shawn it sounds like the starter bendix is probably stuck on a ring gear on the flywheel. I don't know if the AV had that problem but Farmall Ms were notorious for that problem as the ring gear became worn. Remove the starter and bench test it. Then see if you can hand crank it with the starter out.



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Gibby

03-03-2001 08:24:15
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 Re: Re: #@$%#% tractor in reply to The Red, 03-03-2001 07:58:43  
Red is usually right. We've seen several locked up bendix's. It will come back if that's the case, but at least you have a cheap fix.

Just a side note, #@$%#% Tractor are John Deere words. We on the Red side prefer to use "my faithful friend is sick"...

Hopefully you just had a stuck bendix.



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REA

03-04-2001 06:08:27
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 Re: Re: Re: #@$%#% tractor in reply to Gibby, 03-03-2001 08:24:15  
Hi Gibby: Well said! You can play on my team any day. Bob



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George Willer

03-03-2001 14:31:37
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 Re: Re: Re: #@$%#% tractor in reply to Gibby, 03-03-2001 08:24:15  
Gibby,
That is a GREAT line! Have you copywrited it?
George



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Thanks Gibby

03-03-2001 09:40:47
209.254.130.29



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 Re: Re: Re: #@$%#% tractor in reply to Gibby, 03-03-2001 08:24:15  
Wonderful......."my faithful friend is sick" is about the best laugh I've had this week. Right on. Thanks.



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Dan

03-03-2001 11:13:31
12.18.158.25



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 Re: Re: Re: Re: #@$%#% tractor in reply to Thanks Gibby, 03-03-2001 09:40:47  

Guess that has been my problem with my SMTA. Been around JDs all these years and have been talking to it wrong. Always informative in this forum



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Bus Driver

03-03-2001 11:01:16
204.116.81.38



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 Re: Re: Re: Re: #@$%#% tractor in reply to Thanks Gibby, 03-03-2001 09:40:47  
The Red is correct about the ring gear and starter drive. This problem is common to the A, Super A and 140. Probably several other models. The quick temporary fix is to 1. Loosen the starter mounting bolts enough to wiggle the starter. or 2. Put the tractor in the highest FORWARD gear with the clutch engaged and pull the tractor BACKWARD (trying to pull the tractor forward at this time may break something expensive). or 3. Remove the flywheel cover plate and use a crowbar to turn the engine BACKWARD. The cure is to replace the ring gear and the starter drive. I suspect (just my guess) that tractors converted from 6 to 12 volts may develop this problem sooner than non-converted tractors.

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