Antiquered
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Farmall a,b,and c all have same size engine so which is better? The c is heavier I would think b never had a hydralic system but had gear reduction,c had no gear reduction. The a had his later on and was a little smaller.
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Antiquered
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I meant the a had hydraulics later on not sure if it had a gear reduction.
OldFarmall450
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My dad had a friend whose dad bought a C after the war. Clifford told us about going to school, his dad using a 2 bottom plowing at daylight. Clifford said he'd get home and relieve his dad, plowing til dark.
Clifford said he'd hook up the sweeps and cultivate the corn, they had 40 acres. He had nothing bad to say about the C. But as said, what are your plans for it?
redforlife
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Well, if I had to pick from those 3, I would probly go with the C. But what I was going to do with it might make a difference. But if I didn't have to stay with one of those 3, I would probly get an H hands down.
PretendFarmer
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Not sure what you mean by gear reduction because all those tractors had gears. The C had reduction gears "bull gears" as did the A and B.
BarnyardEngineering
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I'm not sure what he means by gear reduction either.
The difference between the A/B and the C is that the bull gears are internal to the rear end housing on the C, while they are external on the A and B.
The advantage of the C design is the bar axle and the ability to quickly adjust tread width by sliding the wheels in and out. You have to remove wheels, switch them from side-to-side, flip the wheel centers over, etc. to adjust tread width on the A and B. It's a lot of heavy lifting.
"Best" is your opinion based on what you want to use the tractor for, how it feels to you when driving it, etc.. In today's world, A's and B's really have limited usefulness due to the lack of hydraulics and the relative rarity of complete implements. Unless the A or B you buy comes with a complete implement that you can use, all it's really good for is pulling a cart.
The difference between the A/B and the C is that the bull gears are internal to the rear end housing on the C, while they are external on the A and B.
The advantage of the C design is the bar axle and the ability to quickly adjust tread width by sliding the wheels in and out. You have to remove wheels, switch them from side-to-side, flip the wheel centers over, etc. to adjust tread width on the A and B. It's a lot of heavy lifting.
"Best" is your opinion based on what you want to use the tractor for, how it feels to you when driving it, etc.. In today's world, A's and B's really have limited usefulness due to the lack of hydraulics and the relative rarity of complete implements. Unless the A or B you buy comes with a complete implement that you can use, all it's really good for is pulling a cart.
steve_in_mo
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Silly question. Remember where you are. You "really need" one of each.
For practical purposes, the Super C or Super A wins.
The Super C had almost the same horsepower as an H with live hydraulics.
The Super A is only a little bigger than a Cub for garden work,
with over twice the horsepower and live hydraulics like the Super C.
For practical purposes, the Super C or Super A wins.
The Super C had almost the same horsepower as an H with live hydraulics.
The Super A is only a little bigger than a Cub for garden work,
with over twice the horsepower and live hydraulics like the Super C.
PretendFarmer
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Maybe the almost the same HP on paper as an H. But even a distillate H pull about the same as a super C maybe a little more. A gas H will definitely outpull a super C. And not too many H's are around that I see that have stock bore pistons anymore.
Super A is twice the size of a cub, judging from cubic inches anyways.
Jim Becker
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ot so bad, nothing like trying to get on an Allis B.
Rat in Can
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there was an old farmer around here a few yrs ago that swore by the C he used to tell a story that the local IH dealer tried to sell him an H they said it was twice the tractor he said the C he had would haul a trailer with 28 barrels of potatoes in from the field ( potatoes weight about 165ibs to the barrel) so he wanted to know if the H would haul 56 they didn't think so he never did get the H
A, B, C are little more than replacements for horses in harness. Oh, and with a PTO (and belt pulley if so equipped). It was the hydraulics that made them really handy back then, and still useful today. Depends on what you want to use one for.
I now have 2 Super A's (one very tired running one, and one awaiting rebuild as it's replacement). They are small, very maneuverable, great for working in the woods (wood box on the rear lift), mowing fence lines and ditches (mid mount A-22 sickle), or snow moving (with the A60 front blade). They can be readily be fitted with cultivators (mid and rear), seeder, fertilizer, hydraulic post pounder, and even have 3pt conversions. I've found them to be lot more tractor than they look to be, including picking over half a ton on the 3pt (had to add ballast to the front blade to keep the front down).
The B can be made to do the work of a SA, but it's just heaps easier to get a SA-140. The Super C is fine if all you want is a scaled down version of an H, but for a similar sized tractor for about the same money, get an H. I did, and couldn't be happier (unless it was a Super).
I now have 2 Super A's (one very tired running one, and one awaiting rebuild as it's replacement). They are small, very maneuverable, great for working in the woods (wood box on the rear lift), mowing fence lines and ditches (mid mount A-22 sickle), or snow moving (with the A60 front blade). They can be readily be fitted with cultivators (mid and rear), seeder, fertilizer, hydraulic post pounder, and even have 3pt conversions. I've found them to be lot more tractor than they look to be, including picking over half a ton on the 3pt (had to add ballast to the front blade to keep the front down).
The B can be made to do the work of a SA, but it's just heaps easier to get a SA-140. The Super C is fine if all you want is a scaled down version of an H, but for a similar sized tractor for about the same money, get an H. I did, and couldn't be happier (unless it was a Super).
mattofvinings
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My Super A is a grass chomping machine with the Woods 59. I had a Cub with same mower and it was a struggle if the grass ever got a hint of long. Also very stable in the ditches with the wide front and offset body.
I have never mowed with a B or C. I met a guy this week who had a Super C and he complained about repeatedly breaking the tie rod assembly on his wide-front end as its the leading edge of the tractor (probably some abuse involved as well
). On the A the rods and ends are somewhat protected by the nose of the tractor.
I have never mowed with a B or C. I met a guy this week who had a Super C and he complained about repeatedly breaking the tie rod assembly on his wide-front end as its the leading edge of the tractor (probably some abuse involved as well
). On the A the rods and ends are somewhat protected by the nose of the tractor.Similar threads
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