Farmall 560D turbo

560farmer

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Hello I have gotten my 560D apart now for a new head gasket, gaskets, and of course all new head bolts and head and valves done. I'v decided to add a turbo, havnt found much luck finding any kits so I decided to pick up a Hx35 with wastegate needing a rebuild. My questions are how do I fab the turbo to exhaust. Is there anyone who makes adaptors? Also how much boost should I run? I'v heard 15-20 would be about right! Anyone with more experience please chirp in. I'm just a 15 old kid trying to learn, thanks!
 

An hx35, will work( just have lag) , but an hy35 or an he351 would be more responsive. I'm assuming it's the turbo from a dodge truck.
If I were fabbing a kit for it I would make a flange for the manifold and then one for the turbo. From there figure out the ideal place to mount the turbo and start fabrication of making the ends connect with pipe. You may be able to just make a small adapter to put the turbo directly on top of the manifold and angle it slightly like the add on kit. Do your best to make it line back up with the old hole in the hood, it's not that hard to do, you just might need to buy some mandrel bends.

The connection to the intake is easy enough with pipe and silicone couplers. Then tap into an oil supply and run the return to an appropriate location, be that, block drain, oil pan or valve cover.

I wouldn't get to carried away on boost if you are going to be farming with it.
 


Go junk yarding and look for a late TD 9 or 150 loader,

they used the same engine and some were turbo charged.

All the heads that I have had in the shop that were

turbo heads had small valves , but I thought the valve

size changed by ser number .


If you don't find a turbo manifold , you need to make

mounting flange out of cast iron and acetylene weld with

cast iron rod . With the temperature changes arc weld will

pull loose from base metal. After welding the cast flange

will need to be surfaced with milling machine , you will

most likely break the turbo flange. i weld alot of manifolds.

Tour the site below , a sample of some repairs. There is a

link to take you to imageevent for many photos.

george


http://www.georgemillermachine.com
 
I never had a turbo on that series engine but I know lieske tractor Henderson mn had one for a 560 last fall for sale. 706 with the 282 had the larger valves although some one put a 560 engine in my 706. We could not get 71 hp from a fresh engine but it was good enough at that time. Good luck
 

You don't have to weld to the cast iron, just weld to the threaded pipe that goes into the cast iron.
 
Turbo size is critical on any engine to work correctly. Engine speed and CFM must be considered and turbo chosen accordingly. What CID engine it the turbo from? If it's the 359 Cummins application it's too large for the 282 to spool it up, unless the 282 is turning 4 grand. Get yourself a copy of the Hugh McInnes book, TURBOCHARGERS. It's a very good read about correct turbo sizing. Has sections on gas, diesel, LP, ignition, intercooling, oiling, water cooling, etc. My first copy is really frazzled now, so I bought a new copy. My first turbo experiment was a C-10 pickup with an LP turbo 455 Olds V-8..
 
M & W used to sell a kit to put a turbo on a 560 diesel.
They are still around, and people are making and selling kits.
 
Ya make the piece from a short piece of sch. 40 pipe and steel plate of no less then 3/8th thick , Then ya use the ft. timing cover for a oil drain back by welding in a 1/2 pipe elbow dead center . as for a feed port ya come off the filter , I am a little foggy on just where as it has been many years since we installed one on a 560 , like 45 years ago and i can not remember what size we used . I just know that tryen to get a 110 Hp did not end well.
 
I put just one turbo on a 560 diesel. I used the kit IH had made up including the dry air cleaner mounted on top near rear of hood. The tractor responded with a whole lot of horse power. I stopped increasing it for the owner when I reached 90 hp. It worked out ok for him for a while but by the time he traded it in and we sold it to another customer who put her to the ground, every thing that could be worn out, was worn out. Even wore out the bearings in the TA which I never saw before or since.

It had put the sleeves in the pan along the way also. Then, I talked a customer out of putting a turbo on his 656 diesel. Not much later, he said put it on so I did. He didn't keep farming much longer and it went down the road before he had destroyed it.

The tractor had more power from the factory than it was capable of hanging together and we all want more. That includes engine, transmission and final drive.
 
Have ya ever met a Farmer or a car nut or truck driver that ever told ya they had more power then they knew what to do with it . Same goes for equipment operators . I had one of them that i put him on a New D 6 D and set him out to build a drilling location and was not on the job for a half hour when he radioed back that the dozer was a DOG and needed more power . Ok so call the Cat house and they send a roadman out and i meet him at the location . He gets on the machine and tries it and said yep she's a dog . Here let me fix this . So he changes the pump a little and tries again Nope lets do this , after five tries the Cat man says yep that is the way it should run and leaves , the operator gets on it make a pass and comes over and said NEEDED MORE POWER . well ok so we more five more shims on the pump and now ya can walk thru stall in second . Now he was somewhat happy but still wanted MORE . he was still not happy with the fact that it would now spin the tracks in second with dirt coming over top the blade , and each time he came off the declarator the sky turned BLACK .
 
If you want that kind of power get an 806, because by the time you get done fixing all the things you are going to break doing that to a 560 , you could of had 2 806s.....
 
You are so right about getting a 806 to begin with. Dad tried a turbo 560 in the 50's and pulled a silage cutter with it one fall. before things were done he had a new 806 in the yard. That 560 turbo was dangerous to say the least. It would rare up and was just like a roller skate powered with a hundred pop bottle rockets.
 
My 0.02 on turbo or compression ratio increase is that it increases heat released in the combustion chamber. Which goes into many places, piston, cylinder head, valves, cylinder walls. But when it overtakes the cooling system's ability to maintain the metal & lube temps, the life of the engine goes down, which could be a slow decay or an impressive failure....usually depends on the RPMs that the engine is run, obviously the higher number of combustion events in any given second, the more heat is released.
 

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