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M Rear Axle bearings (we think)

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Sparky70

05-19-2017 09:02:36




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I believe I have a left rear axle bearing out or going out.

We have not done anything as of yet but are about to pull it in the garage.

Would anyone have a procedure list to change the bearings. AM hoping it is just the outer but who knows.

Any info would be appreciated

thanks




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Sparky70

05-22-2017 17:11:57




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 Re: M Rear Axle bearings (we think) in reply to Sparky70, 05-19-2017 09:02:36  
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I am glad you and the others posted, was convinced it was bearings...or worse.



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Sparky70

05-20-2017 16:27:53




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 Re: M Rear Axle bearings (we think) in reply to Sparky70, 05-19-2017 09:02:36  
Hallelujah!!!!!!!!

Pulled my M in, jacked it up and put a prior bar under the tire. The wheel had plenty give; however, the wife was there and spotted lose 1" bolts that hold the rim on.

Few cranks of the socket and we are back in business :D
I will keep this thread for future reference, thanks to all. Great inputs...Much obliged



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tom dowling

05-21-2017 15:06:14




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 Re: M Rear Axle bearings (we think) in reply to Sparky70, 05-20-2017 16:27:53  
Glad I posted and saved you some aggravation, I had the same thing happen to me on my 400 and thought bearings were going bad also
but it was loose rim bolts.



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High Octane

05-20-2017 07:17:06




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 Re: M Rear Axle bearings (we think) in reply to Sparky70, 05-19-2017 09:02:36  
I've seen differential housings break where the bearing set on. When that happens, the pinion shaft is now holding up that side of the differential housing. Makes a grinding noise. Good luck!



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tom dowling

05-19-2017 18:43:52




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 Re: M Rear Axle bearings (we think) in reply to Sparky70, 05-19-2017 09:02:36  
if your wheel clamps are not really tight that can make a grinding type sound similar to bad bearings, wouldn't hurt to rule that out before you take things apart



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The tractor vet

05-19-2017 17:16:53




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 Re: M Rear Axle bearings (we think) in reply to Sparky70, 05-19-2017 09:02:36  
jack the side in question up get a cherry picker and HELP because them tire and wheels are HEAVY and even heavier when loaded with Cal. Drain the rear end , pull the PTo out use a 3/4 drive socket set to remove the bull gear retaining bolt before you remove the tire and wheel as they work great for turning the bolt out. Then remove the TIRE first then the wheel as i am sure you do not have a wheel dolly to handle it and the axle all at once then use the cherry picker to remove the axle and housing and let the bull gear just drop down . when going to gethere ya glue the gskt to the axle housing and fish the bull gear on the end of the axle and stuff it back together and wiggle the bull gear on as you go . Then ya put the bull gear retaining bolt back in and do things in Reverse . Just make sure ya go the tractor blocked up solid .

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RBoots

05-19-2017 15:58:35




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 Re: M Rear Axle bearings (we think) in reply to Sparky70, 05-19-2017 09:02:36  
Make sure it's not a bull pinion bearing.

Ross



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farm-al

05-19-2017 14:20:18




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 Re: M Rear Axle bearings (we think) in reply to Sparky70, 05-19-2017 09:02:36  
the M inside rear axle bearing is most often the first one to go out,somtimes you can hear a clicking noise if you drive slow and listen or jack it up and turn the wheel,this is not hard to change, we used to change them out in the field most times they would have a mounted corn picker on them or be plowing also changed a lot of broken axles,Al



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Sparky70

05-19-2017 12:02:05




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 Re: M Rear Axle bearings (we think) in reply to Sparky70, 05-19-2017 09:02:36  
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I will try that tomorrow and if none then check some of the gear case oil.

I assume if the bearing (s) are bad there would be movement in the wheel.
More tomorrow

thanks to all



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cornerpost

05-19-2017 11:03:27




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 Re: M Rear Axle bearings (we think) in reply to Sparky70, 05-19-2017 09:02:36  
Jack it up and turn wheel by hand. Listen and feel. Both sides.



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Zachary Hoyt

05-19-2017 09:58:16




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 Re: M Rear Axle bearings (we think) in reply to Sparky70, 05-19-2017 09:02:36  
You could try turning sharply in a circle so that the inner wheel doesn't turn and see if the noise goes away when you turn one way. That would seem to rule out the transmission bearings, and then you'd just have the axle and differential bearings on the loud side to check. Zach



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Sparky70

05-19-2017 09:31:59




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 Re: M Rear Axle bearings (we think) in reply to Sparky70, 05-19-2017 09:02:36  
I can drain the oil and see what comes out, probably tomorrow



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Sparky70

05-19-2017 09:31:09




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 Re: M Rear Axle bearings (we think) in reply to Sparky70, 05-19-2017 09:02:36  
No leakes I can see. Good grind sometimes and when in reverse even worse. Sounds like a bearing shot and appears to be a bearing can be out without the seal being bad, correct?



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DR. EVIL

05-19-2017 16:04:01




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 Re: M Rear Axle bearings (we think) in reply to Sparky70, 05-19-2017 09:31:09  
That makes it sound like the lower back transmission bearing in the bottom of the partition between the transmission and final drive. The reverse gears engage back on that shaft. No seals on that end of that shaft. I'm surprised that bearing would go bad, the pilot bearing on the top shaft normally fails.



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FastFarmall

05-19-2017 10:21:46




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 Re: M Rear Axle bearings (we think) in reply to Sparky70, 05-19-2017 09:31:09  
No they work together, the seal will just crush under the weight.



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FastFarmall

05-19-2017 09:24:59




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 Re: M Rear Axle bearings (we think) in reply to Sparky70, 05-19-2017 09:02:36  
Is it leaking to the out side, that's the first hint, and the bull gear runs real close to the case, so it doesn't take much to start makeing shaving's in the inside. Just drain the and check for shavings !!



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