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Cage nuts for 450 and 460

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Hugh McKinney

05-19-2017 06:09:23




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Hello all. I'm in the process of dressing up my 450 and 460, and it's time to start putting things back more like factory, rather than so much baling wire and scotch tape:) So I'm replacing a bunch of the cage nuts that anchor the sheet metal in place, they are threaded for 5/16th inch coarse thread bolts. Caseih sells them, for about 10 bucks apiece plus shipping (ouch!), but Fastenal only wants about a buck fifty. Problem is, you have to order a box of 50! Anybody else have any luck finding these cage nuts for a reasonable price? I only need about 10 of them. Thanks, Hugh.

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kcm.MN

05-21-2017 08:35:11




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 Re: Cage nuts for 450 and 460 in reply to Hugh McKinney, 05-19-2017 06:09:23  
Ack! Didn't even see the other posts after the OP. :oops:



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kcm.MN

05-21-2017 08:32:48




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 Re: Cage nuts for 450 and 460 in reply to Hugh McKinney, 05-19-2017 06:09:23  
I've barely looked at my 460 since I got it over winter, but I'll check and see if I need any. Thanks for asking!!



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ih560

05-21-2017 07:01:50




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 Re: Cage nuts for 450 and 460 in reply to Hugh McKinney, 05-19-2017 06:09:23  
I honestly haven't bought anything from fastenal in several years. Every time I went in there to get a bolt or other fastener that the local Lowes didn't have, they told me they could order it and the price wasn't that good either. I have always been able to order stuff online for much cheaper and have it in the same amount of time as Fastenal can get it. I went there in the first place because I was working on something and needed it that day.
I have found that either of the local 2 hardware stores have much more of a selection of fastener related items "ON THE SHELF" than any fastenal I have ever been to. The only problem with the local hardware stores are they are open "bankers hours" and it's a challenge to get there when they are open sometimes.

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D beatty

05-21-2017 08:07:51




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 Re: Cage nuts for 450 and 460 in reply to ih560, 05-21-2017 07:01:50  
If you get into large bolts and nuts and speciality stuff none of the big box stores or hardware store handle it. Most of big box can't get if not in computer and hardware stores that can get it you will have to wait till it comes in in stock order or pay extra for faster service. Fastenal has to big of a line of stuff to handle every thing in their stores which from the ones around here they are not that big of stores. Every thing that I have ordered through Fastenal was at the store at 7:30 in the morning and no extra charge. I have tried on line and a lot of it is made in China and is junk and hard to return if bad.

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D beatty

05-21-2017 05:11:42




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 Re: Cage nuts for 450 and 460 in reply to Hugh McKinney, 05-19-2017 06:09:23  

I re used most of the cage nuts on my 450 and the one I needed to replace I got from Fastenal.You don't have to buy in bulk at Fastenal you can order any number of cage nuts you want.I did away with the philips screws and used stainless steel bolts with stainless steel flat washers so not to scratch paint. I don't like philips headed screws as with age they become hard to get out. I used the stainless steel in both my Farmall 450 and AC WD45.

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Hugh McKinney

05-21-2017 06:49:22




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 Re: Cage nuts for 450 and 460 in reply to D beatty, 05-21-2017 05:11:42  
Thanks for the info, the guy I talked to at Fastenal was apparently "shooting from the hip" when he told me I had to order a minimum 50 of them. Now I can get my machine back together without breaking my piggy bank! Hugh



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300guy

05-19-2017 20:00:05




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 Re: Cage nuts for 450 and 460 in reply to Hugh McKinney, 05-19-2017 06:09:23  
Call Pilot Knob at 815-777-0826. He has them at a great price and he also has a nylon washer to go under the screw to replace the star washers. These prevent the star washer from ruining the paint for the 450. He also has the other stuff for the 560. My last catalog has the cage nuts for $1.20 and the screws zinc coated for .70.



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Hugh McKinney

05-20-2017 14:45:10




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 Re: Cage nuts for 450 and 460 in reply to 300guy, 05-19-2017 20:00:05  
Thank you, I'm glad to know I can get the nylon washers too.



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wolfman

05-19-2017 19:51:38




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 Re: Cage nuts for 450 and 460 in reply to Hugh McKinney, 05-19-2017 06:09:23  
Check e-bay item # 381870221335 or # 361445730666 or just google Hood Bolts.



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dblair

05-19-2017 19:48:27




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 Re: Cage nuts for 450 and 460 in reply to Hugh McKinney, 05-19-2017 06:09:23  
they have a bunch at Lowes , I use some on my 450



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pete 23

05-19-2017 10:36:26




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 Re: Cage nuts for 450 and 460 in reply to Hugh McKinney, 05-19-2017 06:09:23  
Those tractors used more than one style of cage nuts. Some were four corner retainer tabs that had to be crimped in place. Other was the two springy retainers BUT, they also came in different retainers for thick or thing metal they were hooked into. The farmall 400 used fine threaded nuts for all hoods, but course threaded up on the dash. Then some where along the 450, all went to course thread. Lots of cross threaded nuts in wrong places over the years. Fought enough of those hoods for years.

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Farmerhr

05-19-2017 09:34:43




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 Re: Cage nuts for 450 and 460 in reply to Hugh McKinney, 05-19-2017 06:09:23  
Sounds like you are all set. However: if something does not work out, try Mc Master Carr Supply. I think you find them on the internet.
Thanks



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ih560

05-19-2017 08:55:27




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 Re: Cage nuts for 450 and 460 in reply to Hugh McKinney, 05-19-2017 06:09:23  
I have seen them but they required to be "crimped" into place.



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DonO-MN

05-19-2017 08:42:12




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 Re: Cage nuts for 450 and 460 in reply to Hugh McKinney, 05-19-2017 06:09:23  
The original cage nuts have four wings. I have only been able to find replacement cage nuts with two wings. Anybody ever find a source for replacement four wing cage nuts???



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hayfarmer

05-19-2017 08:34:55




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 Re: Cage nuts for 450 and 460 in reply to Hugh McKinney, 05-19-2017 06:09:23  
I got some from my Fastenel but they just ordered the number I needed. I think previously I got some from Steiner but they were more expensive



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ih560

05-19-2017 06:20:28




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 Re: Cage nuts for 450 and 460 in reply to Hugh McKinney, 05-19-2017 06:09:23  
Minimum order of 6 but the price is right at $.35 a piece.
https://www.huyett.com/Products/Fasteners/Engineered-Fasteners/Self-Retaining-Threaded-Nuts/EFCN-D07953-5618-4-B?gclid=CjwKEAjwr_rIBRDJzq-Z-LC_2HgSJADoL57HJ2uaCWjOtFHPprJHBjhY6KwyguVC8-KKb8ehKXgYsBoC3ZPw_wcB

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Hugh McKinney

05-19-2017 06:49:37




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 Re: Cage nuts for 450 and 460 in reply to ih560, 05-19-2017 06:20:28  
Thanks, ih560, this is the kind of break I have been looking for, I'm ordering them as soon as I post this! Hugh



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Hugh McKinney

05-19-2017 17:54:34




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 Re: Cage nuts for 450 and 460 in reply to Hugh McKinney, 05-19-2017 06:49:37  
I really appreciate all the knowledgeable advice. I wondered if they hadn't made some changes to them, and it's good to find out now before I order parts:)



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