Need some advice, I have a 1947 farmall H and the best that I can see I have one or more cracked sleeves. I have found a good running engine for a lot less than I can overhaul mine. I guess my question is : should I go ahead and bite bullet and spend the extra money on the overhaul and know what I got or should I go with the engine that is running fine and save some money.
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Janicholson
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I would buy a running engine if I could see it run and be confident it was not an oil burner, or had
lower end knocks. Nothing wrong with a rebuild job either. Your old engine could be rebuilt as you use
the tractor. Cracked sleeves on a dry sleeve engine often crack the native bore as well as the sleeve.
Jim
lower end knocks. Nothing wrong with a rebuild job either. Your old engine could be rebuilt as you use
the tractor. Cracked sleeves on a dry sleeve engine often crack the native bore as well as the sleeve.
Jim
John M
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How do you know its the sleeve? Could be a crack in the head, or head gasket.
BarnyardEngineering
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Yeah, unless you have X-ray vision you really have no idea what the problem is until you pull it apart.
This is a dry sleeve engine so cracked sleeves would not be the likely cause of this problem. If the sleeves are indeed cracked, the block is toast so the good running engine would be your only option.
But, you won't know until you at least pull the head off. You might just need a head or some head work, which would be cheaper and more manageable work than a complete engine replacement (i.e. no splitting the tractor or heavy lifting equipment required).
This is a dry sleeve engine so cracked sleeves would not be the likely cause of this problem. If the sleeves are indeed cracked, the block is toast so the good running engine would be your only option.
But, you won't know until you at least pull the head off. You might just need a head or some head work, which would be cheaper and more manageable work than a complete engine replacement (i.e. no splitting the tractor or heavy lifting equipment required).
rustyfarmall
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Many years ago I bought a Super M with a siezed engine. Found cylinder #3 with a cracked sleeve. Pulled that sleeve and found the bore was also cracked, with a chunk of it gone. Had to buy a complete used short block.
Just a few years ago I found a block assembly for an M at an auction. I could see the pistons were all rusted into the sleeves, but figured the crank and rods were salvageable, so I bought it. Tore into it, and found not only cracked sleeves, but broken cylinder bores. That engine had been allowed to go into winter with only water in it. No anti-freeze. I removed the crankshaft and cam, etc. Turned the rest of that block into yard-art.
OldFarmall450
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I agree with John and Barn yard. Before dropping cash on the other motor I would pull the head and see where exactly the problem lies.
But I also know my brother woulda jumped on the other motor like a chicken on a June bug... he believed in "a pair and a spare".
redforlife
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Well, its not going to cost you anything but your own time to tear your engine down. I would remove head, and
pistons, and have a look at those sleeves. Make sure its the sleeves and not just a cracked head, or leaking head
gasket. If it does have cracked sleeves, then they will need to be pulled out and the block bore inspected. You
can do all this with no cost other than some wrench time. If block bore is OK, I would buy parts and put back
together. If block is no good, you pretty much have no choice but to replace engine. A machine shop could probly
fix a broken bore in block, but the cost probly to expensive to consider. I would do what I mentioned above,
sometimes problems don't always turn out be what you think. Sometimes we expect the worst, and it don't turn out
to be as bad as we were expecting.
pistons, and have a look at those sleeves. Make sure its the sleeves and not just a cracked head, or leaking head
gasket. If it does have cracked sleeves, then they will need to be pulled out and the block bore inspected. You
can do all this with no cost other than some wrench time. If block bore is OK, I would buy parts and put back
together. If block is no good, you pretty much have no choice but to replace engine. A machine shop could probly
fix a broken bore in block, but the cost probly to expensive to consider. I would do what I mentioned above,
sometimes problems don't always turn out be what you think. Sometimes we expect the worst, and it don't turn out
to be as bad as we were expecting.
Is it worth the OH or even the used engine? Where I live a good running H can be found in the $800-$900 range. Scrap and tires on the existing H could bring $400 - $600 depending on the condition of the tires. Doesn't take long before a different tractor is cheaper than working on what you have. Kind of the opposite of car (almost always cheaper to fix what you have).
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