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H - Bakers Hat!

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banjoman09

04-20-2017 12:44:29




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After removing the "Bakers Hat" and dip stick- just one problem....dipstick is dry! LOL Do I dare put oil in it? Hmmmm.......




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pete 23

04-21-2017 10:58:53




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 Re: H - Bakers Hat! in reply to banjoman09, 04-20-2017 12:44:29  
All I can say is that I never heard the term Baker's hat . Grew up running a H and worked on IH tractors for over 40 years at a dealer. Learn something every day.



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John M

04-21-2017 13:14:55




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 Re: H - Bakers Hat! in reply to pete 23, 04-21-2017 10:58:53  
Ive always thought that since I was little, but I never used the term on a forum that I recall until Janicholson used it the other day. (Cue the chef from The Muppets!) I still make that little sound he use to make when I add fluid to the belly pump.



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Janicholson

04-21-2017 17:06:57




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 Re: H - Bakers Hat! in reply to John M, 04-21-2017 13:14:55  
I will take what tiny credit there is in naming the thing in writing. I have also thought of it as a bakers hat since I first put oil in our Super H in about 1956. Jim



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steve_in_mo

04-21-2017 13:21:31




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 Re: H - Bakers Hat! in reply to John M, 04-21-2017 13:14:55  
Love the Swedish chef!



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banjoman09

04-21-2017 12:48:00




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 Re: H - Bakers Hat! in reply to pete 23, 04-21-2017 10:58:53  
LOL....me neither...but I like it!



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rustyfarmall

04-21-2017 05:29:51




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 Re: H - Bakers Hat! in reply to banjoman09, 04-20-2017 12:44:29  
Many times the dipstick is missing because it was removed. The hydraulic plumbing for the #30 and #31 loaders required the return lines be attached to the fill pipe. The dipstick HAD to be removed.

Also, the belly pump holds 6 quarts, but over-filling will not hurt anything. You can add oil until it runs out the fill pipe. The worst that will happen is it will make a mess when the excess oil is forced out. Universal tractor hydraulic fluid, available at most any farm store works just fine. Or if you are really into the IH thing, go to your dealer and get some Hy-Trans.

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Jim Becker

04-20-2017 20:19:20




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 Re: H - Bakers Hat! in reply to banjoman09, 04-20-2017 12:44:29  
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It matters. Detergent oil foams up a lot worse than non-detergent. Foam causes big problems in hydraulic systems.



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banjoman09

04-21-2017 06:11:43




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 Re: H - Bakers Hat! in reply to Jim Becker, 04-20-2017 20:19:20  
ok and thanks.....



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Charlie M

04-20-2017 16:17:16




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 Re: H - Bakers Hat! in reply to banjoman09, 04-20-2017 12:44:29  
Only place it can go on its own is out a gasket or drain plug and on to the ground.



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WayneLee

04-20-2017 13:02:11




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 Re: H - Bakers Hat! in reply to banjoman09, 04-20-2017 12:44:29  
Most dip sticks got broken off during the last 70 odd years. If i remember right i think the thing holds about 6 qts. We used 20 wt non detergent motor oil some use hy tran others hydraulic oil. Really it makes no difference.



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banjoman09

04-20-2017 14:18:17




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 Re: H - Bakers Hat! in reply to WayneLee, 04-20-2017 13:02:11  
ok since I have hyd oil already I will use....just curious where it all went?



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Janicholson

04-20-2017 18:34:25




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 Re: H - Bakers Hat! in reply to banjoman09, 04-20-2017 14:18:17  
A blown hose on the last thing the hydraulic was used for. Use a rod 9 inches long and fill to 8 inches from the top of the stand pipe. Jim



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banjoman09

04-20-2017 19:47:58




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 Re: H - Bakers Hat! in reply to Janicholson, 04-20-2017 18:34:25  
The dipstick is there..... I assume the bottom seal may be out? when I add oil I guess it will tell me. (where the shaft hooks to coupler). The three outlets all have pipe plugs in them so hasn't been used in years... 30 wt non-detergent? Never have understand why use "non-detergent" as opposed to regular oil? Does it matter? Thanks.



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John M

04-21-2017 03:19:52




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 Re: H - Bakers Hat! in reply to banjoman09, 04-20-2017 19:47:58  
Are you planning on using the hydraulics? If not, just leave the couple off.



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Janicholson

04-20-2017 20:46:34




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 Re: H - Bakers Hat! in reply to banjoman09, 04-20-2017 19:47:58  
The detergent in oil of the tractors vintage was often associated with foaming. Not so much in today;s oil, but Hytran or JD Hyduard equivalent oil is OK. If you will use it with equipment that is also shared with tractors that use Hydraulic Transmission Fluid, use that, they are not picky. Jim



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banjoman09

04-21-2017 06:15:09




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 Re: H - Bakers Hat! in reply to Janicholson, 04-20-2017 20:46:34  
ok....great..I think I will add a few qrts and see what happens...as John said- I really don't plan on using the hydraulics- unless at some point I find a "belly mower" to use on thie tractor....might just remove the coupler. Thanks!



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