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Farmall B 450 tractor

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Appr

04-19-2017 19:30:22




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Today I looked at a Farmall B-450 diesel tractor that is for sale. I had seen another one of these tractors several years ago, but they are few and far between. This tractor is not running and has several parts missing. I understand that these tractors were built in England, but I don't know how many were built or how long it was built. I found some info on an internet search, but nothing about where to locate parts. It has a factory 3 point hitch and I understand that the engine is a direct start diesel, rather than a gas starting engine that switches to diesel after warming-up. Does anyone know of a parts source for this tractor, particularly, for the engine? Will the sheet metal from a Farmall M work on this tractor--what about other similar parts like oil pan, pistons, rods, etc.? Any info would be helpful. Thanks for any help.
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richardinnz

04-20-2017 05:02:08




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 Re: Farmall B 450 tractor in reply to Appr, 04-19-2017 19:30:22  
International B450 built 1958 to 1970 28,290 machines built.
Farmall B450 built 1959 to 1970 11,011 machines built
The last machines to bear the Farmall badge produced by International Harvester Company of Great Britain Ltd.
Have got serial number tables here somewhere if you want to date your machine.
Engine will be the BD281 Diesel motor that also went into the BTD6 crawler tractor, direct start indirect injection with glow plugs, will pull like nothing else on earth.

Parts: Repair & Maintenance Services Ltd, Tel 0044 (0) 1384 350136.

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MJ in the UK

04-20-2017 09:37:35




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 Re: Farmall B 450 tractor in reply to richardinnz, 04-20-2017 05:02:08  
Hi Richard, nice to here from you. Last year I managed to find and buy my late uncles Fordson N regestration number GNN 660. The last model N from Brooks of Newark on 16th April 1945 MJ



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richardinnz

04-20-2017 14:09:23




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 Re: Farmall B 450 tractor in reply to MJ in the UK, 04-20-2017 09:37:35  
Good on you! GNN508 is still going good, and still proudly wearing it's original number plate! now joined by a '57 B250. New Zealand ploughing finals this Sat and Sun, plot steward for both days, looking forward to it!



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BarnyardEngineering

04-20-2017 04:35:56




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 Re: Farmall B 450 tractor in reply to Appr, 04-19-2017 19:30:22  
My understanding is they were imported into North America in small numbers to fill some niche need that escapes me now.

I think the tractor you are looking at is the domestic source of parts for B-450's. You will have to go overseas for parts if you want to put it back together.



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John M

04-20-2017 03:24:22




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 Re: Farmall B 450 tractor in reply to Appr, 04-19-2017 19:30:22  
bearings and such my local guy was able to get for me. HE also got my engine kit, but it was a special order type deal. IH dealer laughed when I asked them about parts.



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Phil Tibbetts

04-20-2017 06:00:04




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 Re: Farmall B 450 tractor in reply to John M, 04-20-2017 03:24:22  
That is because the dealer don't want to bother to look it up. They only want to sell new tractors and get the old ones off the market because they know the new ones will be junk in 20 years. IMO



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John M

04-20-2017 07:33:16




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 Re: Farmall B 450 tractor in reply to Phil Tibbetts, 04-20-2017 06:00:04  
Nah, they were a good dealership back then. He did look up the engine parts - pistons, sleeves, bearing, etc. - but the werent available here back then. (Early 90s) I was able to reuse the pistons and rods, local guy ordered bearings and such from some outfit that would make special sized stuff. (Costly but I got them.) Seems like he did find sleeves that fit from somewhere, or I really dont remember if it had sleeves and one needed bored and sleeved or something to that effect. its been a long time since I was into it, and I sold it not too long after I got it back together and running.

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Appr

04-23-2017 22:17:18




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 Re: Farmall B 450 tractor in reply to John M, 04-20-2017 07:33:16  
I thought that I had made a reply to those who responded to my post dated 4-20-17, however, I've just learned that it didn't go. I appreciate those who responded very much. From those who responded to my request, it appears that parts maybe available to repair this tractor. I looked this tractor up on tractordata and they indicated that the engine in this tractor is a 4 cylinder diesel with 264 cu. inches, similar to the engine in the SMD tractors, except for the fact that the engine in this tractor is a direct start diesel. Is it likely that at sometime over the production run for this tractor that IH changed the engine from the 264 c. i. engine to the 281 c. i. engine? I had wondered if other parts from a SMD would work on this tractor. What about sheet metal and parts such as gears and clutch? I appreciate the earlier responses and if anyone has more info, I need to know as much as possible about this tractor. I haven't decided whether to buy it or not. Any other comments would be appreciated. Thanks,
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