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Rex Simpkins

03-20-2017 18:32:55




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I went to look at a Louisville Super M tonight, serial number L508XXXJ 3 bolt starter, live hydraulics, battery under seat, starter a choke loop rings on left side of steering support but no hydraulic box under gas tank used the vacant spot where lift all pump for reservoir what gives?????




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jim warehime

03-21-2017 19:32:14




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 Re: One more Super M question in reply to Rex Simpkins, 03-20-2017 18:32:55  
It's a stage 2 with added live pump. Not that big of a deal since belly pump was optioal.



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PretendFarmer

03-21-2017 07:57:59




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 Re: One more Super M question in reply to Rex Simpkins, 03-20-2017 18:32:55  
Definitely a stage II SM 1953. 501906 was the first Louisville SM serial number. Most likely it was ordered as a factory live hydraulic delete. 53's still had the provisions for a belly pump and that was an option.
My 53 has live hyds. If it were ordered with live hyds and no belly pump it would have a cover where the counter shaft drive would be.
Its easy to swap in a live hyd pump.



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D Slater

03-21-2017 03:57:24




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 Re: One more Super M question in reply to Rex Simpkins, 03-20-2017 18:32:55  

Stage 2 chassis changes were made to accommodate the engine driven hydraulics. But after stage 2 serial number start they could be equipped with countershaft driven hydraulics also. Bracket like the picture was only used on stage 2 tractors with a counter shaft driven pump.

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MeanGene1

03-21-2017 11:48:34




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 Re: One more Super M question in reply to D Slater, 03-21-2017 03:57:24  
Not to hijack, but do you have a good pic of the other end of the choke rod setup at the carb? The one on my SMTA is bent a bit and doesn't close the choke correctly, have to choke it manually. Looking to correct the geometry to get it working right



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D Slater

03-21-2017 18:28:34




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 Re: One more Super M question in reply to MeanGene1, 03-21-2017 11:48:34  
Can't get one tonight. No sharp bends except at lever and hand eye in a SMTA choke rod with choke lever on engine side when mounted. Just checking, if someone put a M carburetor on it with a choke lever on outside could that be the reason for the bends?



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Bob M

03-20-2017 20:34:51




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 Re: One more Super M question in reply to Rex Simpkins, 03-20-2017 18:32:55  
Live hydraulics was a "delete option" for the Stage II Super M. That could explain vacant spot under the gas tank.



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Janicholson

03-20-2017 18:43:03




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 Re: One more Super M question in reply to Rex Simpkins, 03-20-2017 18:32:55  
It would be a stage 1 SM 8000 into production 1952. It would have had the live pump added then used the reservoir (with or without the pump still in it) of the belly pump for a reservoir only. Pretty common adaptation. Jim



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Rex Simpkins

03-20-2017 19:06:50




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 Re: One more Super M question in reply to Janicholson, 03-20-2017 18:43:03  
OK but all the casting numbers end with "Y" and all build months are between March and April 1953



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Rex Simpkins

03-20-2017 19:10:24




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 Re: One more Super M question in reply to Rex Simpkins, 03-20-2017 19:06:50  
Everything I have looked at tonight says that Stage 2 production began at serial number L504802 so that would make this tractor 3,258 later than that?????



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Janicholson

03-20-2017 19:16:21




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 Re: One more Super M question in reply to Rex Simpkins, 03-20-2017 19:10:24  
I believe the Belly pump was an option. It would have allowed you tractor to be as ai describe. Jim



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Janicholson

03-20-2017 19:09:27




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 Re: One more Super M question in reply to Rex Simpkins, 03-20-2017 19:06:50  
Seems like it would be a 52 Look to the left (serial numbers) It could be a 53 if they made less than 8000 in 53. Jim



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Rex Simpkins

03-20-2017 19:18:48




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 Re: One more Super M question in reply to Janicholson, 03-20-2017 19:09:27  
OK Thanks



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