What IH tractor is this?

I have run across an old IH tractor in a shed that may be for sale. I mostly have experience with old John Deeres, so I need some help identifiying this. The owner is the daughter of the origional owner, and she does not
know the model. She thinks the year is 1928, but she is not sure. I could not find a serial number plate on the tractor, but it was somewhat dark in the shed, and I did not have a flashlight. The only thing I found on the
frame that might be helpful is "Patent 1,559,617". I would appreciate any help anyone can give me in identiyfing this old iron.
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the serial # is on the right side of fuel tank support over the clutch , on a brass tag.
or crawl under the tractor and look up under clutch housing and you will see the day/month/year of the tractor.
this tractor has the waterpump and v belt so it is not a 15-30. it would be the 22-36. or it could be a late model 10-20. it is hard to tell from the way this photo is taken. so this is the two possibilities, one or the other. i would say 22-36 as it has the cast steering wheel and the two fuel tanks.
 
Thanks for the responses so far. I will try to go see it again in the next day or so and take a flashlight to see if I can find the serial number plate. I will let you know what I find out!
 
I was going to guess a 10-20, as the picture makes it look too small for a 22-36, or 15-30, but these other guys that are more familiar with these models are probably right. You may want to look for the hood and louvered engine side covers, if they are as straight as the rest of the tractor, they'd probably be the most valuable part. Not having them on the tractor may hurt the value considerably.

Ross
 
(quoted from post at 08:26:13 02/12/17) Definitely a McCormick-Deering 22-36, made between 1929 and 1932.


Kirks right


22-36 had the oil filter and a water pump whereas a 15-30 did not
 
(quoted from post at 17:34:30 02/12/17) so did the late 10-20.

The late 10-20 NEVER had a water pump. Plus, people seem to be missing the fact that there is a water tank in front of the fuel tank, which the 10-20 did NOT have!
 
(quoted from post at 17:02:07 02/12/17)
(quoted from post at 17:34:30 02/12/17) so did the late 10-20.

The late 10-20 NEVER had a water pump. Plus, people seem to be missing the fact that there is a water tank in front of the fuel tank, which the 10-20 did NOT have!


Get em Kirk.......lol
 
ooh come on, i was only 1/3 wrong. i knew the late 10-20 has one tank and an oil filter, was just thinking it had the water pump like the W-30, as its the same engine. my 10-20 is the 1938 model, so IH must have missed the water pump on mine. lol.
 
(quoted from post at 17:02:07 02/12/17)
(quoted from post at 17:34:30 02/12/17) so did the late 10-20.

The late 10-20 NEVER had a water pump. Plus, people seem to be missing the fact that there is a water tank in front of the fuel tank, which the 10-20 did NOT have!

So the two tanks were water and gasoline NOT gasoline and kero/dist?
 
So the two tanks were water and gasoline NOT gasoline and kero/dist?

There is actually supposed to be a third tank, the small cylindrical tank that would be behind the large fuel tank which held gas for starting. The large tank held the kero/dist and the front tank held water which was injected into the intake to help prevent preignition "pinging" when burning the low octane fuel.
 
(quoted from post at 14:01:50 02/13/17)
So the two tanks were water and gasoline NOT gasoline and kero/dist?

There is actually supposed to be a third tank, the small cylindrical tank that would be behind the large fuel tank which held gas for starting. The large tank held the kero/dist and the front tank held water which was injected into the intake to help prevent preignition "pinging" when burning the low octane fuel.

Behind meaning towards the operator?
 
(quoted from post at 15:10:40 02/13/17)
(quoted from post at 14:01:50 02/13/17)
So the two tanks were water and gasoline NOT gasoline and kero/dist?

There is actually supposed to be a third tank, the small cylindrical tank that would be behind the large fuel tank which held gas for starting. The large tank held the kero/dist and the front tank held water which was injected into the intake to help prevent preignition "pinging" when burning the low octane fuel.

Behind meaning towards the operator?


yes
 
Thanks for all of your responses and comments so far. This morning I went back to look at the tractor more closely, and to try to find the serial number plate. I could not find a serial number plate anywhere. I looked on the back of the "firewall" (facing the driver), as well as on fuel tank supports, etc. No luck. I did crawl under the tractor, and found that the large main casting has a casting number of 758-D, below the transmission. I could not find a date on that casting. There is a cylindrical tank that sits vertically behind the two fuel tanks. See the new pictures that I uploaded this morning. Does any of this now definitely identify the model and year?
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that date number is under the flywheel not the transmission. it is there. have a better look. yes the model is a 22-36 , but to find the year you need to find that date #. it is like this... 14 2 17 as an example. it will show day month year.you have to really look for it as its not that big.
that is the small gas starting tank. many times those serial number tags got lost, as they were rivited to the tank support. you will still see the four rivit holes for it though.
 

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