Need help identifying tractor found buried in old collapsed

Jcragger

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Found this tractor buried in an old barn that collapsed between Austin and San Antonio. Not sure what it is or what we should do with it. Someone said it might be a Farmall. Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Another link to view the larger photos online.

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I know nothing about tractors. Is it worth pulling out and bring back to my shop? Is there a serial number or something I need to look for on the tractor to better identify what this is? Thanks for the information. ]
 
F-12 or F-14, if you go back look on the back side of the front gas
tank support, should be a tag with model and serial #.
 
J or JC, it seems to be about a 1938 Farmall F-14. It appears to have a cultivator attached. It is interesting, but probably not particularly valuable. Scrap iron price (or less, considering it would have to be removed from the collapsed barn and hauled to the scrapper). You'd want to check to make sure they are accepting this kind of scrap iron too. To fix it would cost many, many $$$. It'd take new tires (rears are a VERY odd size and VERY difficult and EXPENSIVE to obtain. Then the engine would need to be resurrected from the dead. A good yard ornament??? Best of luck. Kelly ps I'm located midway between Austin and San Antonio, but I do not need or want this tractor. I've already got a 1926, 1939, 1959 and 1964. Please do not encourage me to pursue another!!!
 
Kelly may not have noticed the rear steel wheels. Wouldn't need to spend money on tires, for them. Way too good to scrap. I agree, it would make a GREAT yard ornament, especially with the cultivator. I noticed that lots of folks refer to this as "cultivators" (plural). In Iowa, we call it a "cultivator" (singular). Iowans like to think they are right about a lot of things.
 
Definitely an F-14. That is a model 215H cultivator on it. It has a hydraulic lift with the seat missing. But the hydraulic is NOT hooked up to the cultivator. I have the exact same restored setup only on rubber. And it could be a 1938 or 1939 as those were the only two years IH made the F-14.
 
While the raised steering and longer brake levers indicate an F14 only the serial number will tell the story. IH sold a field upgrade kit to make the 12 into a 14. Got one in my collection.
 
The tractor is a pre-1937 farmall f-12. Here's why:

The Block casting number is the early block, pre-1937; very prone to freeze cracking.

The front bolster housing has the dual oil fill/check level pipe plugs. That pre dates the 1937 single pipe plug casted on an
angle.

The side rails are of the early style, before 1936 when they were changed to a cheaper to produce design.

Has the early fuel pump style with caged valves in it.

In my opinion, this tractor has a dealer f-14 upgrade that was very popular during the war time; you could bring your tractor in
for a rebuild and they would put on a f-14 head & breather, Change the steering wheel, install the better oil filter, etc. It
also got a fresh coat of red. They also installed hydraulic units so that ladies could run the tractors with the shortage of men
due to the war effort.

If a Lady was going to driving the F-12, it was a good idea to change the front wheels to rubber as the steel wheels were not
only a killer on the front bolster but a thumb buster. Being set up for cultivating, they would want the rubber tires for
steering ability for accuracy. My guess is that the farmer set it up for permanently for cultivating and for a youngen or a lady
to run. F-12/14 were absolutely fantastic as a cultivator. I spent many hours as a young lad (8-12yrs old) on one; I hate have
always hated to pull weeds or use a hoe; I fire up the old 12 to do my 40 x 60 garden.

The long handle brakes were quite common as an option, I have an original 1934 & 1935 with long handles and foot brakes. I also
have a 1933 and a 1936 that went through the IHC dealer upgrades to be more like a F-14.
 
I've always disliked that "yard art" term, it means "I'm gonna let it sit in the weather and rot away." My opinion, get it inside and remove the rust, if you can, and at least primer it. I hate corrosion, nothing good about it.
 
I'm not into the F-Series but that tractor looks like a really nice candidate to get rolling again.

I don't think it has a huge monetary value but there's plenty of satisfaction to be found in the old girl. Don't scrap it, at least find some who likes old tractors and get it to them.

K
 
(quoted from post at 07:23:40 01/05/17) I'm not into the F-Series but that tractor looks like a really nice candidate to get rolling again.

I don't think it has a huge monetary value but there's plenty of satisfaction to be found in the old girl. Don't scrap it, at least find some who likes old tractors and get it to them.

K
Thank you for all the great feedback from everyone, I really appreciate it. We are going to dig it out and get it back to our shop so we can look and see what we have to wok with. Stay Tuned and Im sure I will need more feedback after we have clean photos to share. Have a great 2017 and I will hopefully be back soon on the forum.
Best Regards,
Jason
 
Good luck! If you have the time and money,
the satisfaction of hearing that tractor run
again will be worth it. I have seen tractors
that were in much worse condition come back
from the grave. The nice thing about your
Farmall tractor is that it is about as
simple as it can be.

Here is a promotion video of the Farmalls
feom the 1930's. They were quite the tractor
back in the day!
McCormick Deering Line up
 
That is very informative. My dad bought a new F-12 but me being just born in 1936 know little about it. I do know he had it changed over to F-14 , what ever that entailed, and when he sold it , advertised it as F-12. I remember standing in the yard when the buyer came and picked it up. Told Dad it was still F-12, no matter the later changes made. Didn't really care though as he wanted the tractor. Came from Illinois to Minn to get it.

Dad had just got the new 45 H in winter of 46. I have that H and another, a '52 H dad bought new also. I think he got $600 for F-12 with cultivator, hand lift, and paid $1000 for the H with cultivator. Paid 1800 for the 52 bare except fenders, which he promptly removed. The fenders are on a local 560 gas now days.

Also, dad had told my older sisters that he bought a red horse when he got the F-12. Had them looking for a red horse I guess.
 

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