OldFarmall450
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Thanks to the help given on here, and from the guy at the generator shop, it seems my 450 was originally a 6 volt system.
I took the starter back to the shop, the owner said "if its something we did wrong I'll pay for it, if its something you did then you have to pay." Seems fair.
He said it acts like the armature was split, then asked if I had been trying to get it to start? I said yes. He ended up using a shop hammer and punch to separate my starter, then showed me where the armature was split in two places and how getting it too hot causes the solder to melt and the armature to fly apart. He said over cranking causes this. I saw Lee cranking on it trying to get it to start and cautioned him not to over crank. Then I had to go to work and left until the later. Bottom line I'm paying for a new armature.
The shop owner ran the serial # on my starter and said "this is a 6 volt starter. it wont hurt to use a 12 volt battery on it, but it makes it lots easier to burn up if the motor doesn't start." He also said it would take longer to charge the battery unless someone has changed the regulator.
So, IS it an excepted practice to use a 12 volt battery on what's otherwise a 6 volt tractor? The lights have been replaced and are new type, 12 volt.
Any more fallout from the 12 volt battery in my future?
Thanks everyone for the help/guidance/wisdom.
I took the starter back to the shop, the owner said "if its something we did wrong I'll pay for it, if its something you did then you have to pay." Seems fair.
He said it acts like the armature was split, then asked if I had been trying to get it to start? I said yes. He ended up using a shop hammer and punch to separate my starter, then showed me where the armature was split in two places and how getting it too hot causes the solder to melt and the armature to fly apart. He said over cranking causes this. I saw Lee cranking on it trying to get it to start and cautioned him not to over crank. Then I had to go to work and left until the later. Bottom line I'm paying for a new armature.
The shop owner ran the serial # on my starter and said "this is a 6 volt starter. it wont hurt to use a 12 volt battery on it, but it makes it lots easier to burn up if the motor doesn't start." He also said it would take longer to charge the battery unless someone has changed the regulator.
So, IS it an excepted practice to use a 12 volt battery on what's otherwise a 6 volt tractor? The lights have been replaced and are new type, 12 volt.
Any more fallout from the 12 volt battery in my future?
Thanks everyone for the help/guidance/wisdom.