IH Wheel weights on 450

Added another set of IH weights to the existing two that were already on my 450, and had a booger of a time getting the holes to all line up.

Was searching the archives and saw this, posted 10 years ago by Dave8n.... "Each weight is rotated 90 degrees. The first one is installed with four square head bolts in the recessed pockets in the weight and through the holes in the wheel (nuts and lock washers on the inside of the wheel. Subsequent weights are installed by placing the heads of the bolts (2) In the slots on the previous weight and through the holes in the weight you are installing(nuts and lock washers on the outside). This way you can install weights one at a time. I have 2 on each side of my C. Dave."

Is this saying that after you bolt the first weight to the cast center with the 4 bolts, you can just use two bolts for each additional weight and be ok? If so, that would have saved me several hours, lots of time with the die grinder, and a sore back

The existing second set of weights were held on with 4 bolts, so that's what I went with. Probably be ok that way, but would I have been ok with just two per weight? Also, if each weight was "rotated 90 degrees" as in the original post, then the oblong center holes would not line up, which was kinda important in this deal, since at the same time I added some M&H 9 bolt dual adaptors. Would 2 bolts hold the weights ok if just in the slotted holes?

I believe that originally, the weights were only designed to have two sets installed, period. The first had four bolts to support the weight of two sets, and the second only required two bolts.

If you are going to put more than two sets on, consider getting some 3/4" grade 8 ready rod (all thread, threaded rod) and mount all the sets of weights through the four holes in the center. You can nut the ready rods to the wheel hub on both sides so they stay in place, then slide each weight on individually.

Of course since you've already gone to all the work you probably don't want to do that... But, for future reference...

Probably not the recommended way to do it, but for 3 weights I put first on with 4 bolts, next with 2 from first to second in slotted holes, next with 2 bolts through round holes through all three. That way I can remove one at a time if wanted and the next stays in place. Last one out will only have 2 bolts retaining it. Never had them fail though. Can't remember if that is easy to do on 8 spoke wheels. You don't see the latter weights to much around here but IH started putting 2 extra round holes in the weights for mounting when the 8 spoke wheels started. If I remember correct the casting # suffix was DA instead of D on the castings.

I have 3 sets of weights on my 450. As the other guys have stated, put the first one on with the 4 bolts through the cast spokes and then 2 bolts for each additional weight. You line up the weights so that the oblong center holes match. That allows access to the bolts for the axle clamp. You then alternate the hole patterns for the wheel weights, using 2 bolts each. I used grade 5 bolts, as they have more than enough tensile strength to hold the weights in place. Finding the right length bolts is hard.

I took all the fluid out of my M's and Super's i put 6 weight on each wheel to compensate for the Calcium Chloride i took out, I bought some 15x3/4 bolts from Mac's Hardware.Put them in the original hole's, the nuts on the out side. I did need a extra hand to put them on. Lets say you only want to put 3 on each wheel, that would be 6 inch shorter bolt.If you don't have a Mac's close bye, you can order them out of Fastenal Co, whatever grade u want.

The weights on my 450 came off my M and had 4 bolts holding them on and I put them on the same on 450. I found slipping rubber O rings on bolts hold them in place while lining bolts with holes in weights.

I hate to be the bearer of bad new's but you have them on wrong, you wont get the Clamp bolts loose until u remove the weights. Get a friend over there to help you, each one of you, put one hand, in the hand holds, that way you only have to life 75 lbs, nothing to it!

I meant to say lift*, give them a 1/4 turn.

That's the way they were mounted on the M for the 52 years we owned it. This tractor only pulls a few loads around place and goes to shows and pulls now.

D beatty If you look the left wheel weights are on correct so you can get to the axle clamp bolts easier.

The right side is a 1/4 turn off to get to the axle clamp bolts.

Won't hurt a thing till you need to get to the axle bolts for some reason.

I've never seen one with the weights installed turned 90 degrees from each other, but I don't doubt that it is the "correct" way to do it. That way the slotted holes would line up with full holes on the next weight. You can have the bolt pre-installed in the next weight before you hang it, then hook the head of the bolt into the slot of the weight on the tractor, rather than having to balance 145lbs while installing bolts.