Will Woods L306 Work on a Super A Farmall?

JdubyaM

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Good Afternoon, Does anyone know if a Woods L306 Belly Mower will work on Super A Farmall? I found one at a good deal but want to make sure the Super A will pull it. The L306 is a 6ft heavy duty belly mower.

Thanks!
 
Do you know what tractor it had been hooked to?? Unless it was on a Cub and you have the mounts it should work on a Super A. Now if it came off a Cub the blade will spin the wrong way if hooked to a Super A
 
No way it would have come off a Cub. Cub would never have enough power to run a 6' mower.

But still, your problem will be the mounts. They are different for every tractor the L306 could be mounted on. Woods might still have the mounts as parts but they are expensive.
 
Yes sir. It came off a Super A I was told. But when I read through the Internet, most put the Woods L59 Belly Mower on a Super A. The L59 is 5 ft. The L306 is 6ft. I plan to use it on a 4 acre pasture and wanted to make sure it will cut the high grass and weeds and not make the Super A labor too much. The L306 mower was on a Farmall Super A but was used to mow a large lawn and short tender grass.

Thanks!
 
The guy has all the mounts and all the hardware needed to hook it up on the Super A. It came off his Super A. I am reading on the net that the Super A might not have enough Horsepower to pull the L306 in high pasture grass.

Thanks!
 
Well if it is a finish mower it is in fact made to cut lawns not a big field. For that you need a brush hog type machine or sickle bar mower
 
Some are and some are finish type mowers made to lawns. If it has the light duty type blades that are a lot like a riding lawn mower then it is a finish mower. If the blades are real thick and heavy it is a brush hog sort of mower. Either type can be a belly mount
 
Okay. I will take a look at the blades. Do you think the Super A has enough PTO HP to pull the Woods L306 vs the Woods L59 mower?

Thanks for your help.
 
Not really, but the tractor will have good power. Mowing high, then in a few days mowing at 6" can work. Make sure the blades are sharp, and that the front is 1/2" lower than the rear of the deck to prevent multiple cutting of the same stem. Jim
 
That's what I was thinking. Thanks for your feedback! I will go with the L59 and it is a couple hundred buck cheaper anyway.
 
(quoted from post at 19:26:47 09/21/16) Not really, but the tractor will have good power. Mowing high, then in a few days mowing at 6" can work. Make sure the blades are sharp, and that the front is 1/2" lower than the rear of the deck to prevent multiple cutting of the same stem. Jim
Give me your opinion: For my Super A : Would you buy the 6ft heavy duty (which is like new) or an older L59- 5 ft. $400.00 for the 5ft- L59 and $500.00 for the like new 6ft- L306. Which would you buy for the Super A?
Thanks,
JW
 
(quoted from post at 12:11:43 09/21/16) Good Afternoon, Does anyone know if a Woods L306 Belly Mower will work on Super A Farmall? I found one at a good deal but want to make sure the Super A will pull it. The L306 is a 6ft heavy duty belly mower.

Thanks!

I have the L306 on a Farmall H. In tough going, the belt will slip. The H never runs out of power. I think your Super A will do just fine with the L306.
 
In all but the super thick stuff it should do ok. If you get in the thick areas just cut a half cut
 
I have a Woods L306 5 foot mower. I would never use it for pasture mowing. It is made to mow lawns. It has small gauge wheels (about 5 inch diameter) and even mowing my lawn it bounces a lot if the ground is rough at all. I have mine on a Farmall A. My A has step pistons and recently overhauled, so has a lot of power. This spring when the grass was tall it was all the A could handle if I was mowing up hill. A Super A doesn't have that much more power. I think you would want a "brush hog" type mower or sickle bar mower as others have said to mow pasture grass.
 
Thanks for your feedback. Yeah my pasture does have some hills. I have cut the pasture nicely with my 430 John Deere Garden tractor. It has the 3 cycle diesel motor. It cuts the grass too low. I have the hydraulic operated deck as high as it will go and it still cuts in down around 4-6 inches high.
 
I mow a pasture with a super c with a 5 foot woods belly mower. I have run out of power a few times but just take a smaller swath. Also in the tall stuff I go through firdt with the deck lifted and then back through with the deck down.
 
If you are going to mow pastures with a L59 or 306, you better have a good supply of belts, they run about 100 dollars a copy....
 
Oh My! What if I mow half coverage and not go the full 6 ft. wide on a run until I get control of the height of the grass? Then go back over a little later to get in to a height the tractor and mower can handle.

Thanks!
 
That's what I was thinking about doing. If I raise the deck all way up, what height will I be cutting the grass?
 
Yes just remember it is a finish mower made for lawns not for mowing pastures 2ft high. You can get belts from NAPA. Did you get the mounts for the SA and it will run off the belt pulley shaft should have the pulley also. I would get a manual from Woods it help in setting one up getting front blades lower in the front so you arent mowing same grass 2 times befor it discharges i have a new belt you can have if you want to pay the postage as i will never need it.I use the 59 on a B and the belt for the SA is shorter.
 
Go with the 6ft as its heavier and will do a better job. The manual will show how to mow higher by setting it correct.
 
You just wind the belt different on the spindles for the Cub its the same as if you compared a left hand throw to a righthand throw. its all in the way you wind the belt.
 
Yes but if it came for ma cub most would try to put the belt on the same way and it takes hooking it up different and can ever take different brackets for the belt mounts
 
Yes all the hardware is there. He had taken all of it off his SA. Yes I will get a manual off the Woods site with the diagrams. I will print a copy and take with me to make sure I get all the hardware. I can match it up off the drawings. Yeah, When I get the mower, I will take you up on the belt for postage, that's the best deal around. I will get back in touch with you. The L306 weighs 440 lbs and turns 2000 RPMS and the L59 weighs 345 lbs and turns 2550 RPMS. Not sure why the L306 turns that much slower????
 
Sounds good. BTW....The 6ft L306 is 100 lbs heavier than the L59 440 lbs vs 345, and turns slower; 2000 rpms vs 2550 for the L59. What do you have to say about that?
 
Okay. Just wind the belts different. Didn't know that. I don't know a lot about farming. I am 70 yrs old but worked 54 yrs inside. I worked 46 yrs in a plant for ExxonMobil/Pactiv. Retired 4 yrs ago and started raising Boer/Kiko goats. I just have 20 acres on the farm here. I am learning a lot about farm equip. Thanks for helping me.
 
Except the L59 had left hand threads to hold the blades on. Run it the other way and if you strike something it will spin the blade off..
 
Okay. Since the L306 has a left discharge too like the L59, I guess the bolts have left hand thread too.

Thanks.
 
(quoted from post at 00:28:48 09/22/16) Yes just remember it is a finish mower made for lawns not for mowing pastures 2ft high. You can get belts from NAPA. Did you get the mounts for the SA and it will run off the belt pulley shaft should have the pulley also. I would get a manual from Woods it help in setting one up getting front blades lower in the front so you arent mowing same grass 2 times befor it discharges i have a new belt you can have if you want to pay the postage as i will never need it.I use the 59 on a B and the belt for the SA is shorter.
Mr. Bender, How is the best way to get that postage to you?
 
(quoted from post at 19:25:34 09/21/16) Okay. Since the L306 has a left discharge too like the L59, I guess the bolts have left hand thread too.

Thanks.

Yes. The bolts that hold the blades are left hand thread. Easiest way I have found to remove those bolts is with an impact wrench.

For what it's worth, there are "rough cutting" blades that replace the "finish mower" blades. If you will be cutting tall weeds and pasture grass all the time, you might want to consider those rough cutting blades.
 
(quoted from post at 15:09:04 09/22/16)
(quoted from post at 19:25:34 09/21/16) Okay. Since the L306 has a left discharge too like the L59, I guess the bolts have left hand thread too.

Thanks.

Yes. The bolts that hold the blades are left hand thread. Easiest way I have found to remove those bolts is with an impact wrench.

For what it's worth, there are "rough cutting" blades that replace the "finish mower" blades. If you will be cutting tall weeds and pasture grass all the time, you might want to
consider those rough cutting blades.
What is a good place to look for these rough cut blades?
Thanks, dan
 
(quoted from post at 13:09:04 09/22/16)
(quoted from post at 19:25:34 09/21/16) Okay. Since the L306 has a left discharge too like the L59, I guess the bolts have left hand thread too.

Thanks.

Yes. The bolts that hold the blades are left hand thread. Easiest way I have found to remove those bolts is with an impact wrench.

For what it's worth, there are "rough cutting" blades that replace the "finish mower" blades. If you will be cutting tall weeds and pasture grass all the time, you might want to consider those rough cutting blades.

Thanks Rusty. I will see if I can find those heavy blades.
 
Gene,
Are there provisions on the blade spindles for lubrication as I can't find any zerks on my L306 I use with a Farmall 140 or do they have some type of lifetime lube method - thanks for sharing your knowledge, Ha.
 
I have an L306 under a super A and I think its a good fit for mowing the yard. I have powered it out a couple times in heavy spring growth grass but usually I chug along in second gear. If I know its heavy I will raise the deck a hair and hit it twice. I enjoy mowing with the A more than the hydro lawn mower it just a smoother ride and you cover a lot of ground in a short time.

The only problem I have is the front wheels interfere with the gauge wheels on the deck so I have to be careful how sharp I turn. I have some idea on how to fix it but all these ideas take time.
 
Look careful at the bottom of the spindles on the flange that bolts on top of the deck thats whee i have always found them. Its possible somebody has replace them with a screw or something i have never seen one without grease fittings unless its something new and Woods decided sealed for life i would get the parts# off the spindle and serial# of the mower and call them
 
No the mounts are the same for either a right throw or a left throw you just wind the belt for left throw thats why a manual is important.
 
(quoted from post at 08:53:47 09/22/16) Gene,
Are there provisions on the blade spindles for lubrication as I can't find any zerks on my L306 I use with a Farmall 140 or do they have some type of lifetime lube method - thanks for sharing your knowledge, Ha.

My L306 has grease zerks on the spindles, accesible from above.
 
Bill, On the wheel leveling wheel issue. I read and saw some where if you mount the wheels on the outside of the mower it won't interfere with your turn radius OR... if you want your mower wheels to stay inside, just widen your front axle on the Super A. You have a lot of adjustment. Just move the front right wheel out.

JW
 
(quoted from post at 07:50:09 09/22/16)
(quoted from post at 15:09:04 09/22/16)
(quoted from post at 19:25:34 09/21/16) Okay. Since the L306 has a left discharge too like the L59, I guess the bolts have left hand thread too.

Thanks.

Yes. The bolts that hold the blades are left hand thread. Easiest way I have found to remove those bolts is with an impact wrench.

For what it's worth, there are "rough cutting" blades that replace the "finish mower" blades. If you will be cutting tall weeds and pasture grass all the time, you might want to
consider those rough cutting blades.
What is a good place to look for these rough cut blades?
Thanks, dan

Probably from a Woods dealer. The finish blades are sometimes available aftermarket, but I've never seen the rough cut blades listed on any aftermarket suppliers website.
 
Gene, thanks and they were very easily found once knowing where to look. I guess I was thinking they would be where they were very visible and didn't want to have to crawl under the mower if it wasn't necessary. I gave each zerk 7 or 8 shots not knowing how much they could handle without blowing past any seals. Thanks again for the information on their locations, Hal.
P.S. Back to the original reason for this thread, my Farmall 140 handles the 306L fine even in some fairly heavy tough field grasses but I don't know the horsepower difference between a Super A and 140 but doubt it is very much. I usually find 1st gear and full throttle best for my use cutting field grasses.
 
(quoted from post at 19:00:43 09/21/16) Well if it is a finish mower it is in fact made to cut lawns not a big field. For that you need a brush hog type machine or sickle bar mower
Yeah.. your are right Old. I do have a Bush Hog Squealer on my John Deere tractor. I just wanted a mower for the Super A. The offset PTO makes the Bush Hog drive shaft run in an awkward position. But is will work. Belly mowers just make a neater cutting package in my opinion and maybe cut in a tighter spot.
Thanks,
JW
 
(quoted from post at 20:15:00 09/22/16) Gene, thanks and they were very easily found once knowing where to look. I guess I was thinking they would be where they were very visible and didn't want to have to crawl under the mower if it wasn't necessary. I gave each zerk 7 or 8 shots not knowing how much they could handle without blowing past any seals. Thanks again for the information on their locations, Hal.
P.S. Back to the original reason for this thread, my Farmall 140 handles the 306L fine even in some fairly heavy tough field grasses but I don't know the horsepower difference between a Super A and 140 but doubt it is very much. I usually find 1st gear and full throttle best for my use cutting field grasses.
Thanks Farmallhal! Yeah the 140 has more HP than the Super A.
The Super A has 13 hp on drawbar and 16 hp on PTO. NOT MUCH. The 140 has 17 hp on drawbar and 21 on PTO. These old Farmall's did not have much power. I guess the gears made up for it. I don't mind cutting in 1st gear in heavy grass/weeds if nec. Why... I am 70 yrs old and I am ready for slow! LOL
 
Those HP ratings are way too low original A had that much. SA will have around 22 cause the 113 with 3 1/8 kit
making it 123 cu in
 
Thats what 1st gear is for seems now people want to mow 1oo MPH Ive mowed some tall stuff with the 59 in low and mower set up make sure the belts are tight. By the way Woods says more belts are ruined by not thight enough. Ive been mowing with a 59 on a B since 66 finally custom made a B for mowing it has 235x15 tires on the rear and donuts for the front left tire moved in to the tranny works well car tires keep lawn rolled good and never have to worry about turning short and tearing up grass.
 
Rusty, I found them after Gene advised where they were located and gave each one 7 or 8 shots of grease not knowing how much would be enough. They are easy to access so will hit them with a couple shots before mowing each time in the future, Hal.
 
(quoted from post at 00:34:39 09/23/16) Those HP ratings are way too low original A had that much. SA will have around 22 cause the 113 with 3 1/8 kit
making it 123 cu in

Gene, I was just going by what was listed on the TractorData.com site:

Farmall Super A Power:
Drawbar (claimed): 13 hp [9.7 kW]
PTO (claimed): 16 hp [11.9 kW]

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/000/2/9/292-farmall-super-a.html
 
Tractor data sometimes is a joke where they get their info who knows over the yrs silly thing do show up and copying them down errors do exist just try and find simple parts like gaskets, rebuilt starters and the list goes on Gave NAPA gen # needed new reg three days later and was the wrong one but that what the book said and the problems will not go away so the owner better know his stuff.
 
That was one thought and I think with that and the moving the front wheels in to narrow them up a bit it may work if I have an antiscalp roller in the middle. The wheels are already as wide as they can go with the deck wheels mid mounted and it causes problems. I think I have larger than normal front wheels on this super a think they are 6x16s.

Or I had though about possibly hanging the deck from the axle like on a regular mower.
 
(quoted from post at 16:01:14 09/23/16) That was one thought and I think with that and the moving the front wheels in to narrow them up a bit it may work if I have an antiscalp roller in the middle. The wheels are already as wide as they can go with the deck wheels mid mounted and it causes problems. I think I have larger than normal front wheels on this super a think they are 6x16s.

Or I had though about possibly hanging the deck from the axle like on a regular mower.

Sounds like you have a plan Bill. BTW...I have a 1954 John Deere 40 that has been renovated. I am thinking about putting the Woods L306 mower on it instead of the Super A. The John Deere has the Wide Front End. (A lot wider tractor all way around.) It also has more horsepower too.
 

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