Just wondering how everybody weights up their H's for plowing. I will be pulling a jd 2 bottom. No fluid in tires. What I have available is 2 sets of rear weights and 2 sets of fronts. Hauling it with a half ton truck so wanna stay as light as possible but still want the best performance available when I get to the field. Never plowed with it before. I've only plowed with wide front tractors before.
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gene bender
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Why do you think you need wts do you have traction problems an H with two bottoms usually dont need wts. We pulled 3-14 for yrs with an M no wts or fluid plowed 120 or so A each yr.
Red Dave
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It all depends on the soil you want to plow. In nice light soils, you may get away with none at all, but keep in mind that an H is a lot lighter than an M.
We plow in contests with a Super H. It has water in the tires and a set of rear and front weights. I've plowed 3 14's with it in light soil and it took it easily and I've also been in soil where that the same tractor struggled with 2 14's. In heavy soil you will need more traction. If it is greasy on top you will need more traction (that means weight).
I would put 1 set on the front and 1 on the back and give it a try. You can always take some off if you don't need it, but I wouldn't let the other rear weight set get too far away in case you need them.
We plow in contests with a Super H. It has water in the tires and a set of rear and front weights. I've plowed 3 14's with it in light soil and it took it easily and I've also been in soil where that the same tractor struggled with 2 14's. In heavy soil you will need more traction. If it is greasy on top you will need more traction (that means weight).
I would put 1 set on the front and 1 on the back and give it a try. You can always take some off if you don't need it, but I wouldn't let the other rear weight set get too far away in case you need them.
As the tractor sits right now I have 2 sets on the rear none on front because I took it to a pull to get a load on it, that had me at 4500 lbs. Balanced great front end just lightly skipping off the ground, went 80 ft only before it choked out of power, stock 4500 lb class is no place for an h around here. Either way you think I should just leave both sets on the rear then and add a set to the front? I was told it's a stripped bean field.
Red Dave
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No way to tell from here how hard it will pull.
If I was you, I'd leave it as it is a give it a try. If the front end isn't coming up maybe you don't need weights on the front, but they definitely can help with steering. Might work fine, but if it doesn't, you can make whatever changes that seem to be needed.
If I was you, I'd leave it as it is a give it a try. If the front end isn't coming up maybe you don't need weights on the front, but they definitely can help with steering. Might work fine, but if it doesn't, you can make whatever changes that seem to be needed.
fastfarmall
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I plow with a M and a Super MTA,i took all the fluid out of both tractors, Put on six weight on the M, and 4 on the MTA, but that got the 2 point hitch on it which is heavy, But 6 cast weights is about the same, as the weight, that the fluid is in the tires, on a 14.9 X 38 .
fastfarmall
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On a H with 2x16, and no fluid, two or three set of cast weight would be plenty.
steve_in_mo
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Stripped soybean field should let you pull 2-14s easily with an H.
Stock (the word "stock" is a joke at most pulls) 4500 would be a lot better with a stripped M or Olly 88.
Stock (the word "stock" is a joke at most pulls) 4500 would be a lot better with a stripped M or Olly 88.
Two rear weights on the land side, one rear weight on the furrow side. The land side tends to slip a bit more and a tricycle front end will tend to creep away from the furrow with no weights at all. With 2-14's running six to seven inches deep you should be able to run in third gear, 2nd if the ground is really dry. You want a bit of rear tire slippage while plowing, depends on the current depth of the lugs.
Soil moisture, how you have your plow set up have more to do with how she performs more than weights & horsepower. A well set up plow has a lot less draft than a poorly set up one.
Soil moisture, how you have your plow set up have more to do with how she performs more than weights & horsepower. A well set up plow has a lot less draft than a poorly set up one.
gene bender
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Front end will not drift if the hitch on the plow is set corrct also having plow set is important sharp shares and landslide ect. Nevber had a problem with M pulling 3-14 Genius and small section harrow
rustyfarmall
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One set of the rear weights should do the job, but since you already have two sets, I would install both. NO need for the front weights.
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