Opinions on this 460 needed

I'm looking for a larger horse power tractor than my little 8n.

I need it mostly to help me do brush clearing, pulling a box blade, etc. once I get a spot cleared out of the brush, I plan to start a large garden and run some chickens and hogs. I've got 10 acres to work with.

Thoughts on this or should I pass?

https://austin.craigslist.org/atq/5673407551.html

that would be a good parts tractor if you already had a good running 460

Only if you can start it and operate it for an hour should you consider it. Then at 1000.00 it might be OK. If the tires are flat and been sitting they are probably ruined. If
you are a mechanic, and want to dedicate 200 hours to it and 5000.00 to it for parts go for it. Jim

My experience says the most expensive tractor one can buy is the one that is really low priced, but does not run. Now add unknown tire condition to that. I don't think so!

(quoted from post at 08:43:04 09/06/16) that would be a good parts tractor if you already had a good running 460

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Thanks for all the input. I'll pass on it. My actual goal is to find a farmall 450 due to childhood nostalgia. I'll keep looking

would be worth it if they paid you the 600

Skeeter, I looked at dozens of adds on C/L and on many occasions the deciding factor was the rear tires. I found a 450 about 110 miles away that needed front tires, but cranked and ran so I brought it home. Take your time keep checking the adds and widen your search area. It worked for me.

Ps. That tractor looks like a bucket of rusty parts and should be run across the scales asap!

How come everyone is yelling "SCRAP IT!" about this tractor, when if the exact same tractor were sitting in a scrapyard, you'd all be yelling "SAVE IT!"

I know the guy's description of "rare" and "complete" is really out there, but c'mon, he only wants $600 for it. If the engine rolls over, it's worth that much.

My thinking exactly! Hugh

(quoted from post at 14:49:44 09/07/16) My thinking exactly! Hugh

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I think it's worth the money... but it would be a time thing. Used tires, finding the missing tin, some paint. I'd be ready to replace parts however.

if your in central TX, there is a 450 in Brownwood that i looked at. i bought the disk but the tractor looks ok, its an LP with wide front end. look on cragis list for add number: 5689307414

bass

Wasn't the 460 a bad design with a weak rear end and was prone to failures? I'm sure I read where IH offered a new rear end for that model as replacement parts. It'd be like buying a Ford pinto. If it was a collectable model and he wanted a show piece I could see dropping that kind of $$$ it'll need to make it go, but he wants something to use on his place. The rear tires alone could run $1500 for new, and he'd have a hard time finding out if the rear end was replaced. It could fail AFTER he'd dropped 3-5 grand and that would really stink. I've seen several 40/50 hp tractors go under two grand.
If you're a collector I can see wanting to save a derelict from the scrap yard, but I don't see a bargain to a farmer there.

The rear end issues were for early production years only, and most of those were fixed over the course of the last 55-58 years. You're just as likely to be wearing out the second set of bearings at this point on a tractor that old, as to have the original failure mode bite you.

When these were fixed the mechanic was supposed to stamp some sort of mark in the serial number tag. A triangle, I think? Of course not all mechanics did that, especially if it was decades later.

If you're looking at tractors this old to use to farm, then you have to expect failures no matter how shiny the paint is. Either have enough tractors to have adequate backups, or don't have anything to do that's so critical that you can't be without the tractor for a few days/weeks while it's repaired.

Guys, realize this. The 460 evolved from an H and the 560 evolved from an M. If you lay the bull gears from an H on top of bull gear from a 460 you will say, hey, same size. Same with the 560 and M. What IH did was changed the angle of the teeth from 20 degree to 25 degree which gave a lot more pulling surface on the tooth. I don't know, but imagine the material in the gear was changed also but we were not given any information on that. All bearings were either changed in design or capacity but general gears remained same size. Lots, and lots of wrong information out there about the changes made and when it was done. I changed ten early model 460 and 560 tractors and then put the later bearing improvements in a lot of them later on. Also, put the 560 package in a 450 .
In reality, we always hear about the 560 problem but the 460 was a lot more problem around here. We sold way too many to customers replacing a Super M or a over bored M and they didn't stand up well. The 560 was replacing the same size tractors so, sure we had failures but for the guys who stuck with his same machinery, nothing special in problems. Guys weighting them down, big tires, more problems. f

I would want my 460 to be able to readily spin those tires when needed to relive the strain on power train. You always want some slippage taking place with tillage work for maximum efficiency and tractor life.

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if your in central TX, there is a 450 in Brownwood that i looked at. i bought the disk but the tractor looks ok, its an LP with wide front end. look on cragis list for add number: 5689307414

bass

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I found that add and have attempted to contact the seller. Thanks!!

Appears to be missing all spark plug wires and all of the air cleaning plumbing if I am seeing correct.