Super MTA Running Lights

BBinOk · Apr 22, 2016

Were there 2 different types of running lights used? Mine are the thin pancake and others have the sealed beam that can be replaced with the 4410 an 4411? Doing a resteration. Thanks for any info.

Brian J in MN · Apr 22, 2016

If memory serves correctly, the headlights are the pancake ones which are available from aftermarket companies(All states ag parts comes to mind).

The tail light is the older style teardrop shape with either a replaceable sealed beam or a bulb.

Brian

Janicholson · Apr 22, 2016

Headlights are pancake tail light was teardrop with lense and two bulbs Bigger white and smaller red. with s knob switch on the side. (best of my memory.) Some Super Ms of early production may have had teardrop head lights as supplys were used up. Jim

the tractor vet · Apr 22, 2016

Org. were the as you call them pancakes , the old style bulb went extinct many years back and a lot were changed to the ones that came on newer tractors that would take the 4411 style bulb. MY S/MTA that i have was a one owner tractor and when i bought it it was as Org. as you could find down to the org pint or what was left of the paint and the one headlight worked and one was dead . I tried to find and org. bulb and had no luck so i changed mine over to sealed beam . a few years later at a sale i bought five five gallon buckets full of Miss. head lights and tail lights and in them i found six brand new org bulbs for the pancake style four 6 volts and two 12 volt .

BarnyardEngineering · Apr 22, 2016

For a while, you could get "conversion kits" that had a separate reflector/socket, gasket, and lens so you could use replaceable bayonet style bulbs. Some tractor parts vendors may still have them, as I was able to buy two kits at the Bloomsburg PA show a couple of years ago.

The truth is there's nothing special about those sealed beams. Inside is a standard bayonet style bulb. You've got to wreck the bulb housing to get to it, though!

With minor modifications, you can use a 4411 style bulb in the "pancake" housings.

BBinOk · Apr 22, 2016

Thanks guys I ordered new 12v pancake an a new switch for the rear an can get the bulbs for rear as light is in good shape. Thanks again!

D Slater · Apr 22, 2016

Originals were guide sealed beam 357884R91 6 volt front and rear unless it had the combination rear light and tail light attachment 355914R91 with switch on housing and two bulbs that a lot did. 12 volt like a diesel used sealed beam 357885R91 or rear attachment 355915R91. Sealed beam lights started a little before stage 2 SM tractors were built.

randy hall · Apr 23, 2016

since I am cheap I use the 4111 bulb and wrap the edge with about five or six turns of electric tape instead of the rubber gasket and grind off the glass knob and it will fit in the flat style housing just fine.

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