I purchased a pretty decent 1951 Super C tractor last year for my son who plans to start a market garden. The SC has a fast hitch with three point adapters, lots of tread on rear tires (unloaded) and one set of rear weights. It seems to run real good and has plenty of power but I have not "worked " it yet. The property where he plans to cultivate is level, in sod and has never been plowed. Do you think this tractor will pull my Ferguson 2-14 three point plow in this "virgin" S. ILL soil? I can use my H if need be. I never had a problem with the H pulling 2-14's. He is 2 1/2 hrs. away from me so I want to take the right tractor to bust up this sod...THANKS!!!
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fastfarmall
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I would take the H, there, the Super C, can pull a small disk, to work it down, afterwards.
gene bender
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Yes it will pull that plow. You will need to let the ground "cure" for some time before discing couple weeks. You don't want to pac new turned soil. That's the way we did it for many yrs before no till pull a harrow behind the disc. The ground will work even better if it gets rain and DO NOT work it wet. Plowing ground has been forgotten over the yrs with new methods of no till but the old ways when plowing still stand tall.
Follow Gene's advice. He has "been there, done that". Super C with mounted 2-14" is a good rig. Don't need to plow "to China" but get plow down to 8", and take your time, for a small area you have no need to go fast. A SC pulling a mounted plow can pretty much do what an H with trailer plow can do. (I have an H with trailer plow).
LA in WI
LA in WI
Bet I'm the odd man out on this! You might need BOTH TRACTORS TO PULL 2-14's. I plowed 80 acres of
permanent pasture for the BTO I worked for one spring. Normally ran in 5th gear with 4020-D's with his F-
145 5-14's. I was down in 3rd & 4th gear in that old sod. Diff lock engaged and had to shallow the plow up
a bit on the hills. I should have had his 4320 on the plow!
Heard the son of the BTO who farmed the 320 acres across the road a couple years telling a friend one day
he broke some old sod, used a 4020-D on a #8 IH 3-14 plow and the tractor had all it wanted to pull.
permanent pasture for the BTO I worked for one spring. Normally ran in 5th gear with 4020-D's with his F-
145 5-14's. I was down in 3rd & 4th gear in that old sod. Diff lock engaged and had to shallow the plow up
a bit on the hills. I should have had his 4320 on the plow!
Heard the son of the BTO who farmed the 320 acres across the road a couple years telling a friend one day
he broke some old sod, used a 4020-D on a #8 IH 3-14 plow and the tractor had all it wanted to pull.
We had a new 53 fasthitch super c that came with 6 or 7 attachments one of which was a fasthitch plow. One of my brothers was the only one I ever seen use the plow and that was in corn stalk ground, said it didn't pull good in sod but this was in the rolling hills of N Illinois. Later when I started plowing we used a 3-14 behind one M and a 2-bottom in sod behind another M. The Super C wore out the mower, blade, planter, 2 loaders and seems like something else but never wore out the plow or cultivator.
todd hamilton
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Pay a neighbor with a modern tractor to plow it the
first year. Best $50 you will spend. Once the
ground is mellowed from garden plot it will turn over
easy next year. Less expensive than hauling your
H 200 miles. The super c can then disk and
cultivate without straining either old tractor.
first year. Best $50 you will spend. Once the
ground is mellowed from garden plot it will turn over
easy next year. Less expensive than hauling your
H 200 miles. The super c can then disk and
cultivate without straining either old tractor.
Janicholson
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I agree, if the plow has good shares with the point end thin and sharp, it will suck in well. It also needs coulters to cut the root systems for a clean separation. Polish the plow before going at it or it will be a struggle. Jim
gene bender
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The C-20 was made for the C and would be better. I used one on virgin soil and it worked just fine wheels on tractor were set according to manual ect. As with anything having things set correct is the answer lots of Cs were used plowing when they were new some in area that was the only tractor on the farm so it did everything even ground feed That's why so many were sold in that era so don't let those who say they didn't work as thousands of A were farmed with the SC. Just not many around who remember how it was and how we did things.
teddy52food
Well-known Member
No need to go 8 inches deep. 5 or 6 is plenty for a garden. A Super C can do that.
Bryce Frazier
Well-known Member
I have done a good bit of plowing with my Super C, and my restored C. Pulled the same plow both times, and nice 2x14 John Deere trip plow, in AWESOME condition. Everything all shined up, good points, good coulters, etc.
At plowdays where the club tries to plow 6 inches deep, it is a task for the restored C (has a brand new SC engine in it) to keep up. It is 1st gear MOST of the time. Can pull 2nd once in awhile.
Out here where we have so many rocks, I don't plow deeper than about 4 or 5 inches, and 2nd gear on the old, unrestored SC is just perfect. Cursing right along, no lack of power, etc. I think you will be just fine.
P.S. C has 2 sets of wheels weights, SC has 1 set, both have front weights, neither have fluid.
At plowdays where the club tries to plow 6 inches deep, it is a task for the restored C (has a brand new SC engine in it) to keep up. It is 1st gear MOST of the time. Can pull 2nd once in awhile.
Out here where we have so many rocks, I don't plow deeper than about 4 or 5 inches, and 2nd gear on the old, unrestored SC is just perfect. Cursing right along, no lack of power, etc. I think you will be just fine.
P.S. C has 2 sets of wheels weights, SC has 1 set, both have front weights, neither have fluid.
Thanks for the replies. as soon as the weather co-operates I will get my Ferguson plow into the shop and give her a good cleaning and maybe a new coat of paint. I haven't used it since the farm was sold in 2004.
When I use the 3 point am I supposed to remove the "draft link" or "traction bar" on the left side of the tractor? I hope so because it is missing.
I have been looking for a C-20 but have not been able to locate one close to me....Thanks,,,Ed
Your SC will 'play hell' with a 3 point plow. The gemotry is all wrong,and there will be no way to control/limit depth.You will
need some kind of 'depth limiter',be it chain,stop block,or a gauge wheel.You REALLY need to find a fast hitch plow,or find a
pull behind.If your plow is set right and good land sides you won't need any side to side limiters. If not,you wont hold it in
the furrow. I wish you luck.
need some kind of 'depth limiter',be it chain,stop block,or a gauge wheel.You REALLY need to find a fast hitch plow,or find a
pull behind.If your plow is set right and good land sides you won't need any side to side limiters. If not,you wont hold it in
the furrow. I wish you luck.
Bryce Frazier
Well-known Member
You don't think the SC will handle it hydraulic wise? They have 2 way power on the cylinder right, I imagine it would hold depth quite well, rather than something like an H / M that has Power up, but gravity down?
My SC came with several round "blocks" that fit around the shaft on the lift cyl. They stop the hitch from dropping too far,,,? Hoping to find some ground close by to make a couple of test runs...Yes, I do need to find the right plow but they seem to be real scarce in my neck of the woods....Gotta use what I have till one comes up....
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